Chelena Just Can't Catch A Break With The Media

[Twoller]

What do they mean by "independent"? Under the two party dictatorship, all of the "third parties" are "independent", including the Independent Party. I'm convinced that the Independent Party itself was an engineered product to respond to those people, like myself, who objected to having to register with a political party just to register to vote, who wanted to vote independent of any political party.

[Kathy63]

Originally Posted by Twoller

What do they mean by "independent"? Under the two party dictatorship, all of the "third parties" are "independent", including the Independent Party. I'm convinced that the Independent Party itself was an engineered product to respond to those people, like myself, who objected to having to register with a political party just to register to vote, who wanted to vote independent of any political party.

Are you in California?

I've head Larry Elder talk about this several times. He registered as independent thinking he was registering to vote without registering for a political party. In California it's decline to state that registers someone to vote, but not under any specific party affiliation.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Kathy63

Are you in California?

I've head Larry Elder talk about this several times. He registered as independent thinking he was registering to vote without registering for a political party. In California it's decline to state that registers someone to vote, but not under any specific party affiliation.

Yes, it's Decline to State now in California. But it hasn't always been that way. Decline to State has been a long time coming. Before it did, I was hoping they would change it to something like "No party affiliations", but some clever person realized it was nobody's business what your party affiliations were and so Decline to State is better.

You know what would be even better than Decline to State? No party registration at all. No primaries and no need to register with some political party. Not only is it none of the government's business what your political party is, it is none of the government's business to have any administrative function in political parties at all. It ought to be constitutionally suggested that the government cannot have any administrative function in political parties nor can it keep track of what a voter's political party is.

[MowMyOwn]

I was registered Decline to State for many years . . . the only problem is if you wanted to vote for a Republican in the Primaries, you had to re-register as Republican for your vote to count - not so with the Democrats, they'll take anyone's vote in the Primaries.

For the General election, you can be Decline to State and vote for whoever, I'm not sure why they don't do the same for the primaries.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by MowMyOwn

I was registered Decline to State for many years . . . the only problem is if you wanted to vote for a Republican in the Primaries, you had to re-register as Republican for your vote to count - not so with the Democrats, they'll take anyone's vote in the Primaries.

For the General election, you can be Decline to State and vote for whoever, I'm not sure why they don't do the same for the primaries.

Don't you get it? The only reason for the primaries is to provide a voting apparatus for the two parties of the "two party system". That is the only reason. There are "third parties" who get to participate too in order to dignify the process, like the "Independent Party". When they hold the primaries, they have to print up different ballots for each political party. When you go to vote, you identify yourself to the poll workers and the poll workers look you up and see what your political party is and give you the right ballot according to what your political party is. The poll workers understand that some political parties allow "decline to state" voters to participate with other party's ballot and so if you are Decline to State, sometimes you have your option to choose a party's ballot. Decline to State voters have their own ballot too so that they may vote for issues that are being voted along side the party's primary elections.

Of course when the actual constitutionally mandated elections come along, there is only one ballot. It makes absolutely no difference what the political parties the candidates belong to. No candidate for any office anywhere in the US, local, state or federal, need belong to any political party at all in order to run or serve.

The primaries are a huge mess and expensive too and only exist to subsidize, with your tax dollars, the "Two Party System".

[Ole Glory]

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[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Ole Glory

....

The Chelene Nightingale for Governor campaign will be celebrating the early success of our hard work. Last week the Nightingale campaign discovered that we are competing with the two-party big name candidates and placed in the top four. Our campaign is currently beating out the California Republican endorsed candidate Steve Poizner. This is a sweet victory considering our campaign operates on minimal funding compared to the $20 million spent by the Poizner campaign.

According to several polls including the California Policy Institute poll, voters are ready to vote outside the two main parties. This places the Nightingale For Governor campaign in a solid position this election period. And we can continue to succeed with your participation at the fundraising celebration!

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Will the Independent Party be participating in the primaries this June? Or have they already picked their candidate? It is hard to see the significance of Chelene beating Poizner if Poizner has no chance as the Republican candidate. Poizner's first obligation is winning the support of Republicans, unless he wants to show up on the ballot in November outside his party.

What does it mean that voters appear willing to vote outside the two main parties? Are they no longer registering with the two main parties?