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Old 01-24-2013, 12:07 PM
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Thanks for admitting that:

(1) Whites have been relegated to 2nd class status; and,

(2) Blacks are not responsible for their actions.

Interesting theory of yours, that it takes a "few centuries to set things right" after slavery, that was ended 150 years ago. If it takes centuries for blacks to perform to the same ethical and intellectual standards as whites, as you argue, shouldn't under performing blacks be banned from life threatening occupations like practicing medicine, flying commercial airplanes, doing brain surgery, owning guns or making decisions about the use of nuclear weapons...at least for a "few centuries" and they finally recover from "slavery" and achieve the same level of accountability as whites?

And shouldn't vulnerable white children be separated from blacks who, for whatever reason, can't control their impulse for racially motivated anti-white violence?

Were not southern whites morally correct to use racially segregated schools to protect vulnerable white children from racially motivated violence by blacks, who are given a pass for violence because it is "not fair" to hold them to the same high standards as white children whom they brutalize?

How nice when people like you come around and agree that the southern white assessment of negro character and impulse control was correct all along. Whether you realize it or not, you've made a case for an anti-white racial caste system as well as for black inferiority.

I'm called a racist because I think blacks should be held to the same standards as whites, but you're regarded as "enlightened", "accepting" and "tolerant" based on your belief that blacks are not capable of meeting the same standards as whites. I'm sure black people are flattered by your high assessment of their intelligence and character and your belief that they'll act like savages for at least the next "few centuries."

So nice when people like you rip off the mask and show your true beliefs.
Yeah, you took quite a leap from what I said. I certainly didn't imply that black people were inferior. Neither did I say they shouldn't be held to account individually. I actually denounced that practice, if you'll open your eyes and actually see what I wrote as opposed to what you want to see there. As individuals, everyone should be accountable. It makes no sense to excuse anyone for an infraction or crime based upon their race. However, culturally speaking, helping black families regain their footing....somehow...after being exposed to centuries of slavery and prejudice..., is not a morally repugnant effort. In slavery, families were split apart, kids raised without benefit of an independence rich culture, inherent human values, and criminal or civil justice. They were owned...property. Did you expect kids raised like that over the course of centuries to somehow suddenly and magically cast off their past upbringing, be cast into a society they had previously only witnessed as spectators, and acquire all the social skills, family values, and adherence to ethics, and become an equal to those who had centuries of family roots, education, religious practice, and community support?

My mindset is that it is OK to pour some effort and money into black communities with very specific and limited goals to help improve their family and community ties. That's it though. restore their footing culturally.

Don, I understand how you feel, and while not every feeling you express here is entirely unfounded, I do think you have a lack of ability to absorb the misfortune of others based upon your disdain or fear of their race. I agree that current race based admissions policies are far too generous to selected races. Also agree that there's a concerted effort to villainize white people by many organizations and government officials. Where we part on our beliefs is that I don't think we should let our government get away with swinging the pendulum to suit the needs or desires of those in power. You, on the other hand, want to hold the entire race accountable as the instigator. I don't believe a black person is inferior to a white person, genetically or otherwise.
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