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Old 01-15-2010, 01:29 PM
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Default Haitian illegals can stay

Isn't that just so special.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Obama administration says it will allow Haitians already in the U.S. illegally to remain because of this week's catastrophic earthquake.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano granted the temporary protected status on Friday.

The protection is only available to Haitians already in the country as of last Tuesday.

On Wednesday, Napolitano temporarily halted deportations of Haitians, even those already in detention.

Temporary protected status is granted to foreigners who may not be able to return safely to their country because of a natural disaster, armed conflict or other reasons.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:44 PM
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The thing to watch here is what exactly qualifies as "temporary". At some point, the situation in Haiti will have to be considered to have returned to the basket case state it was before the quake. No doubt they have will have a lot of aid money and will be putting natives to work, we hope, and we can issue a similar pretext to throw them out.

The real question here is exactly how aggressively were we throwing out illegal Haitians anyway?
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Old 01-16-2010, 04:42 AM
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The real question here is exactly how aggressively were we throwing out illegal Haitians anyway?
The answer is, as someone posted on a forum a few years ago, " Before they get dry". Just where the Hell do you think they would find a place to live, find food and water right now? For once I can agree on our illegal non-enforcement.
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Old 01-20-2010, 03:09 PM
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The answer is, as someone posted on a forum a few years ago, " Before they get dry". Just where the Hell do you think they would find a place to live, find food and water right now? For once I can agree on our illegal non-enforcement.
I'm with Rimo on this one, what would they go home to?

I have new respect for Anderson Cooper here -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-P5D887IcI
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:57 PM
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The answer is, as someone posted on a forum a few years ago, " Before they get dry". Just where the Hell do you think they would find a place to live, find food and water right now? For once I can agree on our illegal non-enforcement.
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I'm with Rimo on this one, what would they go home to?

I have new respect for Anderson Cooper here -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-P5D887IcI
"Before they get dry"? Really? What made the Haitians so different from all the other illegals? Was enforcement against illegal Haitians really that successful and complete? Was it that aggressive? Were we actually holding Haitians that we were ready to ship back?

Why did the photographer continue to shoot Cooper? What was Cooper doing carrying a camera? I respect news photographers. They are brave souls usually and a little crazy sometimes too. But not when they become the subjects of their own work. And news announcers? A little skepticism is in order. If this had been reported, but not photographed, I'd be a little less cynical.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:20 PM
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What made the Haitians so different from all the other illegals?
Nothing except their country is in shambles . . . what would they be going home to?
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Were we actually holding Haitians that we were ready to ship back?
According to DHS, yes.

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Why did the photographer continue to shoot Cooper?
Why not?
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What was Cooper doing carrying a camera?
I would suspect that being equipped with more than one camera on hand in a place like that is standard procedure.
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And news announcers? A little skepticism is in order. If this had been reported, but not photographed, I'd be a little less cynical.
You're skeptical that the footage is fake? Well, I guess anything could be staged, but if not, Cooper took a big chance with that kids blood all over him.
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:38 AM
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The thing to watch here is what exactly qualifies as "temporary". At some point, the situation in Haiti will have to be considered to have returned to the basket case state it was before the quake. No doubt they have will have a lot of aid money and will be putting natives to work, we hope, and we can issue a similar pretext to throw them out.

The real question here is exactly how aggressively were we throwing out illegal Haitians anyway?
Haitians basically control the heroin importation all up and down the east coast, so we weren't doing a whole lot about illegal haitians to begin with. How long will it last? Well, how long did it last for the Honduran refugees from Hurricaine Mitch in 1998. That's still going on.

We're still processing new applications for amnesty under the 1986 rules!
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:47 AM
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Haitians basically control the heroin importation all up and down the east coast, so we weren't doing a whole lot about illegal haitians to begin with. How long will it last? Well, how long did it last for the Honduran refugees from Hurricaine Mitch in 1998. That's still going on.

We're still processing new applications for amnesty under the 1986 rules!
Now we know the Mexican Drug Cartels do not control all the drugs. Thanks.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:55 PM
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http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2450468

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Canada relaxes immigration rules for Haitians devastated by earthquake

Jorge Barrera and Linda Nguyen, Canwest News Service
Published: Friday, January 15, 2010


PORT-AU-PRINCE -- As evacuees returned to Canada from Haiti on Saturday, the federal government relaxed this country's immigration rules to make it easier for Canadians to sponsor family members living in the earthquake-torn nation.

At a news conference in Ottawa, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney said Canada will give "priority" to Haitians who want to come to this country, if they can show that they were "severely affected"by the 7.0-magnitude earthquake that struck the Caribbean island Tuesday.

The new rules will also apply to Canadian families who want to adopt Haitian children, in hopes of speeding up the process, said Kenney.

All immigrants must still qualify under Canadian immigration standards, but will have their cases looked at more quickly.

Kenney said temporary residents already in Canada from Haiti, including students and workers, will automatically have their visas and permits extended temporarily in the wake of the largest earthquake to hit Port-au-Prince in almost two centuries.

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Now we know the Mexican Drug Cartels do not control all the drugs. Thanks.
You don't hear too much about it, but there's lots of killing in Puerto Rico over cocaine.
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