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Old 01-20-2014, 05:09 AM
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Default What's wrong with California?

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http://moneypennydd.wordpress.com/20...an-believe-in/

This has been going around the internet for some time now. As you read the various statistics please then remember to scroll down a little bit to the fact checking. Some of the claims are disputed but if you look at the disparities closely the order of magnitude is really small. So the basic message is still impressive if not shocking.

Keep in mind also the element of time. Remember that the Pilgrims came in 1620 to a land that was totally primitive and natural. As an aside my Mother was born in a log cabin in the 1890's and lived to be 102. My Grandfather never had electricity or running water in the house.

The changes are obvious. Maybe it is called future shock. The future will really be bleak indeed for our decedents.
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:38 AM
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Default The calamity is upon you folks.

It is happening. It's real.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/arti...be%20-%20/0#/0

Latinos surpass Caucasians in March !!!!!

Senior citizen numbers increase dramatically !!

A sad day for you all and a sad day for America.

Ironic isn't it. The native Americans were overrun by swarms of Europeans back in the 16th, 17,th, 18th century until they were decimated. Now the Latinos are swarming California. Big difference is that people like Moonbeam Jerry Brown and his ilk are handing it all over on a platter.

I really do not want to see the future of this country in the next 100 years. It will be unrecognizable. I spent a lot of years overseas in under developed countries so I know what it will be.
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:11 AM
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Latinos surpass Caucasians in March !!!!!
This does not matter.

What does matter is the manner in which place government and freedom (personal freedom and freedom to possess and control real and material property [including money]) has in culturally political thought.

Superficially, the Iberian Peninsula (now Spain and Portugal) and England south of Hadrian's Wall have similar back grounds.

Originally Celtic; Latin provinces; German migration; German and Angevin ancestry in royal bloodlines; The King was the head of the church (Henry VIII broke away from Rome, The Spanish Pope made a deal with post Muslim Spain); both Spanish despotism and English mercantilism forbid trade with any but the home country; and so on.

And both America and the Latin American countries had issues concerning property and justice, and both succeeded in independence while the mother countries were at war with France.

(French troops deployed to assist the American revolution had a lot to do with the 1781 American victory at Yorktown. England was at war all around the globe with France, Spain, and the Dutch.

Napoleon took degenerate King Charles IV of Spain hostage and installed Joseph Bonaparte on the Spanish Throne in 1808. After Charles was reinstated there were uprisings and civil wars in Peninsular Spain, and Charles IV refused the Mexican conservative invitation to be Monarch of Mexico after Mexican independence in 1821 - he wanted things as they were before Iturbide turned Mexican nationalist and the Spanish deputy signed for independence without authorization. In Mexico it was death to bad government, long live the king: In the American colonies before Concord and Lexington the thought was long live the king who ruled badly by listening to to bad advisers).

So, what was it that facilitated a "can do" America and a dismal collection of "failed every which way" Latin American states?

Race has nothing to do with it, and far left "Latino activism" is only possible by the very Americanization the so called "elite" and so called "progressive educators" are attempting to stamp out.

Race and the embrace of one culturally embedded political idea or another are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 01-21-2014, 05:30 AM
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Default Agreed.

Agreed that it does not matter statistically that Latinos outnumber Caucasians in the near term taking into account that most Latinos are illegal alien Campesinos semi literate with at best a 6th grade education and some that are illiterate and cannot count numbers.

However, in the long term it will matter and I am speaking in decades when the voting bloc kicks in and rules the roost. *( Like South Africa ).

As to the history of Europe from the 16th Century, I am very well equipped with a plethora of history and data. It's really too extensive to post here but basically:

* My family's history originated in Bentheim which you probably never heard of. It was a Principality of Royals in an area situated between the Netherlands and Prussia *( Modern day Germany ). Land was all used up. Farms were inherited by the oldest Son and the siblings had to acquiesce and work for the dominant member.

Religious persecution was rampant by the dominant "King of England". So the split occurred between Catholics and Protestants. The King James version was manufactured and edited heavily by Shakespeare. Then there was the 1599 Geneva Bible, The bible of the Reformers and the Pilgrims. *( I have both ).

My Grandfather emigrated from the Netherlands back in the 1850's 60's to Michigan. He and his 4 brothers built the Dutch reformed Church in Moddersville, Michigan. They came for land and freedom from religious persecution.

After an arduous sea journey of 2 months they landed in New York Harbor, took a boat north on the Hudson River, then across the Erie Canal to Niagara Falls, Lake Erie the by boat to across the Great Lakes. Finally landing in Michigan in a remote area with no town's, no noting, just primitive wilderness. They set up tents initially then built log cabins. Hiked for miles to developments to find provisions. There were not any native Americans there then. Their main resource and income was cutting timber, which was very abundant, and selling it. *( In Europe many timber resources were already cut and in shorty supply due to building so many vast numbers of sailing vessels ).

Note that I have an abundance of this history including many letters written back and forth to relatives here and there about all of this.

My family was traced back to Bentheim, now in Germany, to a church in Lars where both marriage records exist back to early 1800's. But projecting back the ancestors date to the 11th Century and the holy Roman Empire.

Where are we going with all of this? Into the next Century. We should enjoy our best years now. They won't last.
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Agreed that it does not matter statistically that Latinos outnumber Caucasians in the near term

taking into account that most Latinos are illegal alien Campesinos semi literate with at best a 6th grade education and some that are illiterate and cannot count numbers.
Gently, here is where you're wrong.

Just what the hell is a "Latino"? So many different meanings depending on convenience of the moment. "Latino" does not confer the meanings of Illegal, citizen; educated, ignorant; Spanish, English; Republican, Democrat; Catholic, Protestant; 5th generation, newly arrived; country of origin; law abiding, criminal; communist, socialist, or capitalist or even race.

We have a pope from Argentina, an old white man from south America elected by old white men in Europe to be the head of the church. The domestic brown race hustlers fell all over themselves that a "Latino" had become Pope and projected he would do all sorts of things about legalization. I asked a number of Mexican nationals, mostly of dubious legality and various degrees of English fluency, it it were a big deal about the Pope being "Latino". They didn't care about whether he was white or brown, nor where he came from. They all said it what was in the man's heart and could he fix the problems of the church. And not a one mentioned anything about the Pope addressing the issue of illegal immigration into the United States.

I see people of all different generations, of different cultures or mixtures of cultures, of widely ranging origins who are all lumped together as if they were all the same person.

And that's just simply not true.

Do I believe that there is a migration so vast that assimilation is hindered? Very much so.

Do I believe that many of the children of illegals do not become adequately educated and grow up to be a net drag on society? yes

Do I believe that what made America into such a desirous place to immigrate to is being torn out by the roots? Yes. And much of it is encouraged by white people.

But, people who grow up here are not the same people as their parents and grandparents, regardless of how both sides of the immigration shout down make it so.

Race does not prevent those kids from being American, nor does it prevent them from taking in whatever it was and is that made America great. The fact that many don't can be faulted in many directions, not the least the schools and politicians who pander to "diversity", those who want to tear down America and make it into something else.
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:14 AM
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Default What's a Latino ?

Generally it is a catch phrase in common usage, perhaps urban dictionary language, broadly interpreted by many as someone who speaks Spanish. An alternate word is Hispanic, generally also meaning Spanish speaking.

I have a "network partner", friend, colleague, that is of PuertoRican descent, one of those opposed to illegal aliens and she is the most vehemently opposed. Absolutely against. She despises the word Latino. Gone to great lengths to define it.

I don't recall precisely the statistics but the vast majority of illegal aliens, in numbers, come from Latin America *( So what is Latin America ? ). 60% from Mexico. When we look at the demographics of Mexico we find a significant mixture of nationalities and cultures. The Conquistadores had Mexicans divided into 18 categories. One of interest is that about 5% are actually true Meso Americans, Indians, living up in the mountains and who speak native tongue and not Spanish. And those in Maya territory that are separatist Mayans. Indeed Vicente Fox has a Scottish name and a father of Scottish descent.

I think that by numbers, the border jumpers are predominantly campesinos, poor and badly educated. The Guatemalans here in New York are by far the poorest and worst. Some apprehended could not read or count numbers. They set up camps in the woods on the outskirts of towns, in urban areas, ramshackle hovels built with scraps and stolen lumber. They drank all day, played cards, fought, shop lifted, killed and roasted wild game and lived like animals, broke into cars, garages and homes. Some sneaked into the schools at night in winter to sleep in a warm place. Some of the churches allowed them to sleep in the church. It got so bad that the fathers of children went out on vigilante patrols to protect families.

They all had one thing in common. They broke many laws. *( All of the drug running, human trafficking, counterfeiting, identity theft and on and on is too extensive to post ).

I lived in Latin America. I know them up close. There are certainly many upstanding, well educated, good people there. I worked with them. But there are huge numbers out in the campo living in oil drum and cardboard shacks, with dirt floors, and in the barrios surrounding cities. The kids don't go to school and pick pocket and steal to survive. That' what we are getting here coming across illegally.

Brazilian police were actually shooting them, paid by shop keepers. *( Yes, it's true ). And the Oligarchs want to dump them on us to get rid of the burden.

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