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Old 12-08-2012, 09:00 PM
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Default US Traded Immigration For Military Bases; Now Hawaii Boils Too

Hawaii youth getting fed up with their homeland being overrun with foreigners too. Gotta love the way the US just trades citizenship and entry for the right to plant some bases on their soil. Also wonder just what it was that we got in that trade for zxillions of mexicans back then. sure wasn't military bases, so what was it?

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HONOLULU -- A high school on Hawaii's Big Island was temporarily closed after officials say racial tension and multiple fights this week culminated in a brawl involving 20 to 30 students, with eight arrests.
Immigration from the Federated States of Micronesia, along with the Republic of Palau and the Republic of the Marshall Islands has been a source of tension for some residents in Hawaii, the closest U.S. state to the Pacific islands.

Immigrants from the Federated States of Micronesia are a small but fast-growing group in Hawaii as a result of a 1986 pact that allows citizens from three Pacific Island nations to come to the United States in exchange for allowing the U.S. to use defense sites.

In the 2010 fiscal year, Hawaii spent more than $52 million on health care, welfare, public housing and homeless support for more than 17,000 migrants from the compact. In addition, education costs were more than $55 million.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:27 AM
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Hawaii youth getting fed up with their homeland being overrun with foreigners too. Gotta love the way the US just trades citizenship and entry for the right to plant some bases on their soil. Also wonder just what it was that we got in that trade for zxillions of mexicans back then. sure wasn't military bases, so what was it?



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Native Hawaiians don't like anyone. Try going to a Hawaiian beach which is not part of the tourist trap routine - you'll probably get a first hand lesson in what "nativism" is really all about.

The acquisition of our present southwestern states in 1848 didn't come with "zillions of Mexicans" either. Between coastal California, the Rio Grande Valley from the gulf of Mexico to southern Colorado and eastern Texas may have contributed as few as 12,000 Mexican nationals, many previously Spanish citizens. Arizona was negligible, mostly full of sagebrush and hostile nomadic Indians.

If nothing else, the 1853 Gadsen purchase of Southern Arizona and extreme southwestern New Mexico made possible a southern rail route from the east to the west coast, and those "the border crossed" in 1853 were still negligible.

"Mexicans" largely didn't come north of the present border prior to 1848, too dangerous and too difficult for most until the United State subdued the southwest Indians by the 1880's partially in accordance with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (preventing Indian raids into Mexico) and provided an economy. Sedentary central Mexican Indians were one thing, Apaches and Comanches were entirely another and there was little in the way of an economy, mostly a subsistence existence. The colony of New Mexico north of El Paso was possible primarily by exploitation of sedentary Indians, and the Coastal California colony was possible largely by relatively "tame", disorganized Indians.

The railroads imported Mexican nationals from the 1880's on for railway construction and maintenance. They were recruited from within Mexico by railway agents. The railroads were pioneers of cheap Mexican labor.

The horrors of the 1910 Mexican revolution created the first large scale migration to the US.

There were deportations during the 1930's depression, Mexican nationals were imported to fill in farm labor vacancies during the 1940's WWII conflict with American youth off to war.

The 1981 recession combined with the collapse of the Mexican oil industry and the (1982?) devaluation of the peso by Mexican president Lopez Portillo brought a large wave of Mexican nationals.

The 1986 amnesty and American employers encouraged a human tsunami of illegal migration.

Over the last 170 years most if not almost all present day "Latinos" in the United States either have ancestors who crossed the post 1853 border or they themselves crossed the border, not the other way around.
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