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Old 03-05-2011, 03:42 PM
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Utah Passes Arizona-Style Immigration Law
Utah lawmakers have approved an immigration package that includes an enforcement law reminiscent of Arizona's but tempered with a guest worker program for illegal immigrants.
The immigration measures approved by both chambers Friday night would allow illegal immigrants to get a permit to work in Utah. But they also include a requirement that police check the immigrant status of anyone stopped for a felony or serious misdemeanor.
Supporters say the entire package balances economic needs and compassion, while opponents argue it will likely encourage more illegal immigration.
Lawmakers initially balked at the enforcement measure, HB 497, because of what some viewed as a likely backlash. But sponsor Rep. Stephen Sandstrom, R-Orem, garnered enough support for passage after amending it to focus on more serious crimes.
The Arizona law approved last year drew nationwide controversy over provisions requiring police, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if they have reasonable suspicion they're here illegally. That aspect of the law was put on hold by a federal judge.
The Senate sponsor, Sen. Margaret Dayton, R-Orem, said it was a "Utah effort" that distanced the state from criticisms leveled at Arizona's law.
Rep. Bill Wright, R-Holden, the sponsor of the bill creating the guest worker program, HB 116, said if the state can secure a federal waiver the program could become a model for the entire country.
It would allow illegal immigrants to get a permit to live and work in Utah with their families.
The most vocal critic, Rep. Chris Herrod, R-Provo, said a guest worker program would draw more illegal immigrants to Utah.
"People think we'll be seen as compassionate," Herrod said. "People will actually see us as weak. They will see we don't care about the rule of law."
Other measures in the package easily passed the two chambers.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1Fm69YCz0
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:39 PM
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Incredible!!! So Utah asserts a right to issue permits to work for illegal aliens and allows their families to stay in the state.
Why isn't this considered unconstitutional? When Arizona passed SB1070
Obama's Department of Justice filed suit.

Why then should this law be allowed to go into effect unchallenged by the same DOJ?

Utah's decision favoring illegal aliens is a regrettable moment in American history. That new law should have the work permit aspect removed.
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:46 AM
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There goes Utah's reputation for having the highest graduation rate with the lowest per pupil cost.
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:25 AM
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Activists in GOP work for repeal of guest-worker law
Still smoldering after Gov. Gary Herbert signed a guest-worker immigration bill into law, Keri Witte decided to take matters into her own hands.
So the Provo mother of two pulled out her copy of Robert’s Rules of Order, a few old resolutions she had seen drafted in the past and began drafting a document she intended to have sent to every Republican county party for passage as a resolution.
“No, I’d never written one before,” she said. “But I had several friends look it over first to make sure it was OK.”
It wasn’t quite OK at first.
She brought it to Utah County Republican Party’s Executive Committee, where it was critiqued for being “overly harsh and personal” in its criticisms against lawmakers. So Witte tried a new version and delivered it to the Salt Lake County Republicans on March 17.
It passed a vote of the party’s Central Committee.
“I’m just surprised and disappointed with our elected officials that supported this,” Witte said. “There are many facets of HB116 that come straight out of the Democrats’ platform. I’m surprised they supported something that goes against Republican ideals.”
Witte also has drafts prepared for the Republican parties of Piute, Iron and Beaver counties — all of which have annual organizing conventions this weekend, and which begin a series of more than two dozen such gatherings over coming weeks leading up to the June 18 state Republican convention.
Her approach is one of a series of tactics being used by those angered by the passage of the guest-worker bill, which has also garnered national attention as a possible model of immigration reform.
The bill doesn’t take effect for two years and relies on getting federal waivers to function. Among its provisions, HB116 allows for workers and families to get permits to work and reside in Utah and register through the Department of Public Safety. It would cost $2,500 for an undocumented immigrant to obtain a permit — $1,000 if the person overstayed a visa.
Brandon Beckham, a state party delegate, said Witte is operating independently of any organized movement — though he said she first approached him at the Capitol the week before Herbert signed the bill to ask if he would be interested in getting resolutions passed.
“I told her I’d support her doing it, but I told her she should take the ball and run with it since she was so passionate about it and because it was her idea,” Beckham said. “The thing is, there are multiple strategies at work to get the bill repealed.”
Already there is a Facebook page set up seeking support to repeal HB116 and it includes Sen. Orrin Hatch, Eagle Forum founder and President Phyllis Schlafly, former NBA player Shawn Bradley and close to 300 other supporters.
And Cherilyn Eagar, co-founder of the Utah Coalition on Illegal Immigration, has also drafted a resolution opposing HB116.
Beckham said lawmakers who voted for HB116 are also being targeted by tea party delegates — namely Sen. Curt Bramble, R-Provo, and Rep. Holly Richardson, R-Cedar Hills — and they are actively searching for a Republican to run against Herbert in 2012. Beckham said he believes there are a few good candidates, but Rep. Stephen Sandstrom, R-Orem, is likely the favorite among those who want to repeal HB116.
“I am not running for governor,” Sandstrom said. “I want to be very, very clear.”
However, he also said, “I always tell people never say never” on seeking the governor’s seat and acknowledged he’s been asked by people to take a shot at it.
Richardson, who was once in the tea party movement and was picked to take over the seat vacated by Rep. Craig Frank before the recent legislative session started, said she is no longer associated with the groups.
Her selection to fill the seat was praised by tea party members, but the vote for the guest-worker bill turned them against her. She said comments on her Facebook page have been harshly critical of the vote, labeling her as a betrayer of tea party values.
“Whatever gains they had made are now being destroyed by their behavior,” she said. “I think what is happening with HB116 is having more people disassociate from it.”
But Witte said lawmakers like Richardson are going against the party platform at county, state and national levels by supporting the guest-worker bill.
In her resolution, she wrote the law violates the U.S. Constitution, will serve as an invitation for more undocumented immigrants to come to Utah and creates a threat to national security.
The resolutions, however, are nonbinding, according to Salt Lake County Republican Party Chairwoman Julie Dole.
She also said when it passed the Salt Lake County Republican Central Committee on March 17, “it wasn’t unanimous” among the more than 400 people in attendance and that debate on the measure was cut off prematurely — though not intentionally.
Instead, she said, before it could be fully debated, a person she wouldn’t identify tried to speak to the resolution but instead called for the question — forcing a vote. That decision wasn’t reversed.
“A majority of people wanted to move on,” Dole said.
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Old 03-26-2011, 06:43 PM
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"The bill doesn’t take effect for two years and relies on getting federal waivers to function. Among its provisions, HB116 allows for workers and families to get permits to work and reside in Utah and register through the Department of Public Safety. It would cost $2,500 for an undocumented immigrant to obtain a permit — $1,000 if the person overstayed a visa".

So, if one knowingly breaks a Federal law of overstaying a Visa, One gets a $1500 bonus??...I'm confused.
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Old 03-27-2011, 03:55 AM
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Default Ridiculous.

The brainless bimbos always keep trying.

As we have seen countless times States cannot usurp Federal Customs and Immigration laws. Every time a municipality *( Or State ) tries they are immediately sued by the ACLU, PRLDEF, MALDEF and a whole plethora of left, liberal wackos ! As well as our very own DOJ.

Federal Immigration laws have a provision for citizen recourse which allows them to sue for treble damages. If there were any groups in Utah with backbone and funds they would sue.

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Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an alien for a fee, knowing the alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an alien knowing that the alien is unauthorized to work. Employers may give preference in recruitment and hiring to a U.S. citizen over an alien with work authorization only where the U.S. citizen is equally or better qualified. It is unlawful to hire an individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days' advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. Day laborers or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of
verification of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the alien labor. The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer
that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer's work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual's accent or foreign appearance.
Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.
IT IS ILLEGAL FOR NONPROFIT OR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, REGARDLESS OF CLAIMS THAT THEIR CONVICTIONS REQUIRE THEM TO ASSIST ALIENS. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any alien who is in the United States in violation of law. HARBORING MEANS ANY CONDUCT THAT TENDS TO SUBSTANTIALLY FACILITATE AN ALIEN TO REMAIN IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien's illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien's entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that "encouraging" includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years' imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years'
imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years' imprisonment.

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Old 03-27-2011, 07:14 AM
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Would "harboring" include proponents of in state tuition, sanctuary cities which implement directives such as special order 40, or "Hermadad" organizations which give illegals the goods on how to evade immigration law?
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