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Old 08-24-2010, 09:21 PM
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Well, if this isn't discouraging, I don't know what is. McCain is once again the favorite son of the state senate thus far. If this trend holds true, California will once again have Boxer, and in '12 the US will get Obama again.
I'd like to blame the voters, but after spending some time recently digging into public records surrounding the elections here, I actually don't believe the ballot box anymore. Recent changes are now going to allow more time for College students to vote, as if they hadn't already been given extra time on some campuses with voting early. We print our ballots in foreign tongue, wink at actual vote fraud when it happens, and don't really look very hard when mischief is suspected. Why should I believe McCain is citizens choice? Arizona was so overrun with foreigners they had to pass a law to remind them they were not in control. So what the hell happened? the majoriy of Arizona'ns picked border security and immigration enforcement when SB1070 came around, but now they pick an open borders duplicitous fraud like McCain? Sumpin' ain't right here....ain't right at all
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Old 08-25-2010, 05:06 AM
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I have not been posting anythhing about the election but that does not mean I am not paying attention.
Months ago I looked at all the candidates and realize they are all the same. No matter what they do they will be elected again. Some of the new candidates, such as Whitman and Carley are worse the incumbents. And now McCain is sailing.
I did realize months ago that people were angry and going to 'throw all the bums out'. I can't see that helping if we vote more bums in. Better think before you vote.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:35 AM
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Arizona must be on Mexican drugs.. re-electing McClown just boggles my mind..
I hope someone over there can explain wtf they are doing there regarding who they vote for and why?? WTF??
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Old 08-25-2010, 07:48 AM
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Once again, term limits is what is missing here. And also, the primary system. This is a primary election that McCain has won, right? It's easy to miss and the fact that some Democrat was running at the same time confused the whole race.

Get the political parties off the public election gravy train. Take out the party affiliations of voter registration records. Make it a federal crime to ask what your party affiliation is for purposes of voter registration.

If Arizona Republicans had made the decision to pick a nominee in the private elections of the Arizona Republican party, would McCain still have made the nomination?

How many terms has this little rat served? If there had been term limits, how many different Republicans might have had a chance to make a contribution? Maybe even some Democrats might have done something good, who knows?
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Old 08-25-2010, 07:55 AM
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I don't think it's a problem for the parties to have primaries, but I don't see why that should preclude a candidate from being on the ballot because they lost a primary. Why shouldn't everyone have a chance to vote for every candidate? The claim is that it makes for a confusing ballot when multiple candidates from the same party compete in a general election, but I don't see why that should be reason enough to withhold a candidate after having gone through all the necessary steps to obtain status.
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Old 08-25-2010, 08:40 AM
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Term limits got rid of the Willie Brown political machine in California, but greatly contributed to the problems we have now.

"Legislators" who won't talk to each other and shaft one another at every opportunity, are deaf to the populace and are happy to "solve" the budget crisis by allowing California to nosedive into irreparable financial doom, and waste time on insignificant pet legislation which harms employment when we need jobs most.

Maybe term limits would work every half generation to clean out the rats and snakes, but having career politicians on permanent lame duck status in every elected position they temporarily occupy is hardly productive.

And I'm not really wild about our new open primary as it has been created, I'm sure it can be manipulated to our collective harm.

There may be merit in being registered as "voters" rather than as party members. At least twice to my recollection my Independent registration has been changed to another party - once from independent to Republican and most recently I have been changed from independent to Democrat.

This last primary I wasted no time in paying back the Democrats for fraudulently changing my registration by placing a vote for every loser on the democratic ticket I could, and wrote in a few like Francis the Talking Mule and Mr. Ed as part of the "minority" ticket.

Friggin' Jackasses.
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