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Old 09-30-2010, 10:42 AM
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I have one big question. It has been stated by the Social Security themselves that they do not send out those no-match letters to any employer who has less than 100 no-match employees. They never sent them to employers with less employees, and even those that did employee large numbers weren't sent the no-match unless a large number of their employees were no-match.

The maid was hired through an employment agency, so was the no-match sent to the employment agency? Some of those employment agencies ask a flat fee upfront, and others expect a percentage of the employees pay for a specified length of time. So after 9 years, was the illegal still associated with the employment agency, or was she not?

When I listened to the 37 min. interview with Allred I noticed Allred refused to answer whether the illegals had used false documents or signed anything stating she was a citizen, although Allred was asked at least 4 times. Finally Allred said she wouldn't answer that question.

When asked why the illegal, if she had been so abused, didn't just quit and work somewhere else. Allred first responded that it is hard to find a job in this economy, and then that not everyone can simply go get another job. Well, for 8 of those 9 years the illegal worked for Whitman, the economy was very strong, and for an illegal to get another maid job here in California is by far easier than for a citizen. So Allred is really lying on that one and as she said it she groped for an answer.

It wouldn't surprise me if Whitman had known or at least had some inkling that she was an illegal. But she may have just figured "don't ask, don't tell" and that made it ok.

At the time the illegal went to Whitman and revealed that she was an illegal she was asking for help from Whitman and her husband. She obviously thought that she had little to fear in telling the Whitmans.

There is far more to this than the illegal is saying. What was really annoying while watching the interview of the illegal and Allread, was the constant crying from the illegal. Her being fired was over a year ago, yet she's still crying! What a show!!! Who should be crying is the US citizen who was out of a job and would have take a maid job at $23 an hour in a heart beat.

No one asked Allred how the illegal and her illegal husband were supporting themselves and their illegal kids today, and it was so sickening to hear Allred continue to claim how brave the illegal was for stepping forward. Hell, those illegals have nothing to fear, it is we citizens who are the ones at risk from being sued by the likes of Allred and any other low life attorney. What scum.

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Old 09-30-2010, 11:11 AM
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Great analysis Jean. I also figure that Nutmeg knew she was dealing with an illegal from day one. The illegal is putting on a great show for "cash" and nothing else.

While Nutmeg is probably a ruthless, wealthy, predator and an undoubtedly
reprehensible liar it is obvious that the illegal "victim" and Allred are executing a shakedown of the billionaire.

So one more of these darlings that Obama wants to bring out of "the shadows" is now blatantly attempting, with the help of a crooked lawyer, to have an effect on a gubernatorial election. How much more out of "the shadows" can this get?

My guess is that the illegal rodent doesn't care if she is deported because she expects with a degree of certainty to go back to her beloved Mexico with a few of Nutmeg's millions. Why else would she risk deportation?

Nutmeg has been courting these illegals and their crooked votes.
Enjoy Meg!!! You nasty b**ch!
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I have one big question. It has been stated by the Social Security themselves that they do not send out those no-match letters to any employer who has less than 100 no-match employees. They never sent them to employers with less employees, and even those that did employee large numbers weren't sent the no-match unless a large number of their employees were no-match.
That's interesting. Casts even further doubt on Gloria Allred's story. I believe I read that Ms. Allred is claiming to have copies of the letters. I guess we'll see.
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Great analysis Jean. I also figure that Nutmeg knew she was dealing with an illegal from day one.
I think Jean had it right. Whitman may not have actually known, but it was probably a case of "Don't ask, don't tell."
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Now the Allred camp is saying there was a form letter sent from the SSA to the Whitmans which was filled out by Whitman's husband, who gave a copy to Nicki and threw out the original, unbeknownst to Meg, and that Nicki has given her copy to Gloria. Still doesn't add up. On another note, William Gheen of ALIPAC is now calling for the arrest of both Nicki and Meg.
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Now the Allred camp is saying there was a form letter sent from the SSA to the Whitmans which was filled out by Whitman's husband, who gave a copy to Nicki and threw out the original, unbeknownst to Meg, and that Nicki has given her copy to Gloria. Still doesn't add up. On another note, William Gheen of ALIPAC is now calling for the arrest of both Nicki and Meg.
LOL, I just saw that. Folks over there are not happy with this.
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Friends of ALIPAC, (SURVEY LINK AT END)

We have received a lot of very passionate emails that disagree with ALIPAC's position that both illegal aliens and employers of illegal aliens such as Nikki Diaz and Meg Whitman should be held accountable in courts of American law.

Many of those who have written say that we should not have called for Whitman's arrest because she has claimed to the media that she was duped by the illegal alien and that she has documents to prove that she was misled.

Others say that we should not have called for the arrest of Meg Whitman despite her pro Amnesty positions because she faces a very liberal challenger in the race for Governor of California.

Here is our official response to these concerns.

As a large and diverse national organization, we realize that we will not all agree on every aspect of the illegal immigration issue. If anyone wants to withdraw their support for ALIPAC over a disagreement on one issue, that is their American right. However, clearly over a period of time the illegal aliens will win possession of America if too many people are willing to do that. We all need to stay unified on the grounds we do agree upon, regardless of minor disagreements over a candidate or two or an event or smaller issue.

ALIPAC is not condemning both Diaz and Whitman, although it is fairly understood by all parties involved that Whitman did hire an illegal alien for 9 years and that is a violation of existing federal law.

ALIPAC has called for arrests so that the courts can make the proper judgments on guilt or innocence in these matters. ALIPAC, the media, and California voters are not in the proper position to weigh Whitman's documents, claims, and alibis.

To accept her mere claim of innocence without a trial would be similar to advocating that OJ Simpson not be charged with murder because he came out and told the press he did not do it after evidence suggested he did.

Whitman being a Republican, or a better or worse candidate than Jerry Brown, should not triumph over our value for the lost principle of the Rule of Law in America. There are already many very wealthy and powerful people and corporations that don't believe they should abide by our existing border and immigration laws either. Should we allow them to continue to operate without concern of enforcement because some people support that?

The Rule of Law means that all Americans or people on American soil are treated equally under the law and that nobody is immune to the law because they are wealthy, in the media, poor and downtrodden, white, black, brown, yellow, male, female, Republican, Democrat, or third party.

ALIPAC supports the restoration of the Republic and the Rule of Law in America.

These goals will never happen if Jerry Brown or Meg Whitman succeed with their mutual plans to turn millions of illegal aliens into new voters.

If the Whitmans and the Browns of America succeed with their Amnesty agenda, the political wishes of most of the people reading this message will never matter in America again. Millions of American voters like us will be replaced and America will fall.

The slaughter of thousands of innocent Americans each year and the theft of millions of our jobs and hundreds of billions of our tax dollars will escalate and there will be no peaceful political solution for these problems.

While ALIPAC is calling on law enforcement and the courts to do their appropriate jobs in the Diaz and Whitman case, the most likely outcome is that both will be given special treatment just like President Obama's illegal alien aunt Zeutinin Onyango.

In closing, for those of you that are tempted to leave our email list because ALIPAC said something critical about a Republican candidate you want to support, please consider this. Did id occur to you that Republican candidates across America are hearing of this and they are thinking two things?

One, they are wondering if their employees are legal and they may take action to fix that.

Two, the message of Meg Whitman and John McCain to all Republicans should be clear and if it is not clear we need you ALIPACers to make it clear to them.

EVEN REPUBLICANS THAT PROMISE ILLEGALS AMNESTY STILL GET BACK-STABBED BY THEM SO YOUR BETTER CHOICE IS TO STAND WITH AMERICANS AND ABANDON SUPPORT FOR AMNESTY McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Whitman, Bush, Rove, Norquist, Armey, Giuliani, Rubio, etc...

We hope that all of you will stand with ALIPAC in our call for both Whitman and Diaz to be treated equally under the law. The evidence that they both have violated America's existing border, immigration, and labor laws must be analyzed in the appropriate venue which is a court of law.

We hope that all of you will stand with ALIPAC in support of the principle of the Rule of Law and our mission to save American lives, jobs, wages, security, property, and sovereignty from illegal immigration and from those like Whitman and Diaz that are fostering and encouraging the problem.

My door, email box, and phone line is open to each of you that support our mission if you would like to speak with me further about these important issues.

Sincerely,


William Gheen
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Tel: (919) 787-6009 Toll Free: (866) 703-0864
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http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-edit-1121991.html

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But in the meantime, the illegal who forged and perjured seems to be self admitted at this point, and should be on her way to detention before breakfast.
Guess again. ICE has basically said they don't give a crap about her since she's not a violent or wanted criminal. I figured she'd get a pass like the vast majority of them.
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I also should add that Allred stated that the Whitmans received more than one no-match letter and that they know that because Nikki said she saw the other letters in the Whitmans trash. Now, this is on the word of the illegal.

Whitman is saying that the illegal presented the bogus CDL, SS#, and filled out the forms stating she was here legally to both the Whitmans and the agency that the illegal was working with. Whitman also stated that she was told the CDL was legit but said to ask the DMV. So how did the illegal get a legit drivers license?

Whitman said she announced her candidacy in Feb 2009 and that the illegal was fired in June 2009 after she told Whitman her legal status. Whitman said her present maid was hired though the same agency.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:28 PM
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I hate Whitman and swore I would never vote for another double talking RINO.

That being said, Allred contends that the misrepresentation of Whitman's husband about never having seen the SS letter should be imputed to Whitman and that Whitman "lied" and is unfit for high public office on that ground.

Interesting idea. Hillary Clinton signed the tax returns that later turned out to be bogus and paid the Cinton's back taxes. That return was under oath under penalty of perjury. Moreover, when the Lewinsky scandal broke, Hillary went on TV, denied the allegations about a "relationship" between Bill and Lewinsky and attributed the false accusations to a "Vast right wing conspiracy." Subsequent events showed that Bill and Hillary lied. (1) Are Bill's lies imputable to Hillary; and (2) Do they disqualify her from high public office?
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