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Old 11-17-2009, 08:50 PM
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You're not born into illegal alien status with no control over it.
While that may be true in its' lawful sense, there is some legitmacy to claims made by children who were brought here illegally when they were babies or very young kids. They had little or no control. I'm not advocating for their right to stay mind you, but they fall into a category that is a little difficult to have disdain for. Well, until they start taking up with La Raza and such. And speaking of that, is there a name other than illegal alien for those who arrived here illegally by means other than their own willing participation?
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:16 AM
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Further, it does not fall into the same objectional category as nigger, spic or ginny because one has no control over his skin color or nationality
I have never been one to use 'nick names' for any one or group. I do wonder how many think about the above names given to others. I have heard Hispanic use some of those names but they can complain to high heaven to about anything that does not have sugar sprinkled on it. I still prefer INVADERS. I don't see how they can complain about that but I am sure they can/will. This is my first time to even hear the word ginny
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:34 PM
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I have never been one to use 'nick names' for any one or group. I do wonder how many think about the above names given to others. I have heard Hispanic use some of those names but they can complain to high heaven to about anything that does not have sugar sprinkled on it. I still prefer INVADERS. I don't see how they can complain about that but I am sure they can/will. This is my first time to even hear the word ginny
Oh Rimo, you didn't have a parent from New York as I did. My mother knew every name for everybody. New Yorkers would use those names quite often years ago, or at least they used to before political correctness. We here in the west used those terms or names only when we were referring to someone in a derogatory terms, but in New York, at least years ago, those terms were used when someone was just referring to someone, kind of like we would say ‘Hay you guys’ but addressing a group of your friends who might all be women or women and men. Guys, was just referring to people not exactly males. It was just a name tag, as all those ethnic name tags were years ago in New York, but are now considered ethnic slurs. That's political correctness.

I caught someone about a month ago making a joke about Polish people, and he was Hispanic. I pointed out to him that I was part Polish and that political correctness wouldn't allow me to make the same disparaging remarks about Hispanics, but it seems completely acceptable to do it about Polish people. I also noted to him that I was not offended by what he had said, but just pointing out the double standard.

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Old 11-22-2009, 03:12 PM
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...is there a name other than illegal alien for those who arrived here illegally by means other than their own willing participation?


Yes, Tax Burden.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:15 PM
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My Elena was a child from an earlier migration. There was no such thing as welfare, and while her father worked for a multi-century pioneer in exploitation of south of the border labor, they did such things as scour the old time burn dumps for cast off furniture, housewares, and toys that white people tossed for use in their household. They were friggin' poor.

They ate meat once a month.

No government entitlements.

Lots of rice and beans, the depression in the barrio didn't end in 1941 with WWII and older relatives who were a part of that war, it went through into the 1960's.

And, while it didn't apply to everyone from the barrio south of the tracks, there was a general pre 1960 requirement to be back before dark.

And get this, no hard feelings, that's just the way things were back then, doesn't apply now.

So, when her older brother was sick and in the hospital not too long ago, I made a joke about how he would soon be out and playing soccer, he said that he played football, baseball, and basketball in high school, that soccer was something the Mexicans brought when they came - even though his parents were both Mexican born.

Be careful of who and how people with south of the border ancestry are talked about, because it may work against the quest for enforcement of American immigration laws.

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