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Old 04-04-2010, 02:05 PM
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To be honest , Europe has a far worse problem with their immigrants , a vast majority of them are legal

Its an easy deal to always blame the "mexicans" , Illegal aliens in America come from very many countries , Of course the vast majority do come from mexico and they are the ones raising the most rukus and demands.

Any country with balls would kick those idiots to the curb , but alas , we don't we let them just keep spouting off and kowtowing to their demands.

For how long? I'm saying payback is coming and when it does , either your with "with us , or agin us"
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:30 PM
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It is a complete waste of time ranting about Mexico's contribution to illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a vaste international conspiracy that victimizes many different countries, not just the US. The first priority of anyone sincerely inflamed about illegal immigration is to confront illegal immigration and not just one country, no matter how that country dominates the problem for us.

Picking on the Mexicans is a poor strategy. The public debate is falsely structured so that anytime anyone says the word "Mexican", they are identified as fixing on some racial orientation, either pro or con. And it is completely unnecessary. All you have to keep repeating is "illegal immigrant" and you could talking about any or all of them depending on the context you are speaking.

If one insists on constantly focusing on Mexicans when it is so obviously unnecessary, any observer should be able conclude that you do have a racist agenda. Especially if you have publicly expressed admiration for racist scumbag organizations like the KKK. This is also a special problem in the case of Mexico, since Mexicans are falsely posed as a non European race. Assuming a racist attitude towards Mexicans just props up the Raza-ists. Remember "raza" in Spanish is "race" and so "La Raza" means "The Race", refering to Mexicans as a racial type distinct in some specially endowed way
Where your theory fails you, is that illegal immigration is a part of an open borders agenda with mexico, and a large portion of America is opposed to dropping the border and letting the mexican nationals come and go as easily as do Canadians, mainly because of cultural differences and the fact that there seems to be an exponentially larger percentage of mexican criminals in the flow of migrants/visitors/workers or what have you than that of any other bordering country.

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Old 04-04-2010, 03:15 PM
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Where your theory fails you, is that illegal immigration is a part of an open borders agenda with mexico, and a large portion of America is opposed to dropping the border and letting the mexican nationals come and go as easily as do Canadians, mainly because of cultural differences and the fact that there seems to be an exponentially larger percentage of mexican criminals in the flow of migrants/visitors/workers or what have you than that of any other bordering country.
Mexico is not the only country with an open borders agenda, it is only the most obvious and blatant one to us. And part of the global strategy is to let countries like Mexico make all the noise. Notice how quiet the Chinese are about the issue. The whole false race issue is also a global strategy. The fake confrontation with racism is something that goes all the way to the UN.

It is also obviously a failure to point out the presence of criminals among illegal immigrants. This only plays into the argument that the rest of the illegals are not doing anything wrong. If we do not insist that all the illegal immigrants are criminals and that this criminality is what makes it so easy for illegals to be criminals, we have that much less to argue against amnesty. This is the simple truth. Illegal immigrants are all criminals and if a few of them, most of them or all of them commit other crimes why is anyone shocked?

I don't think anyone in the US really cares about cultural differences as long as people with different cultures are willing to expose their cultures to the scrutiny of others and weather the criticism that results. If your cultural values are bad values, then nobody is obliged to respect your culture. Cultural relativism is a dying system of beliefs. It simply is not true that all cultures are all happily heading for some more perfect form. Some really are doomed to extinction. We hope.
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:38 PM
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The problem is you don't just get the mexican criminals

Mexico is the gateway to America for every south American country
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Old 04-05-2010, 12:34 PM
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The problem is you don't just get the mexican criminals

Mexico is the gateway to America for every south American country
Plus anyone else who whats to sneak in from anywhere in the world.
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Old 04-05-2010, 02:53 PM
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Canada also serves as a gateway for illegal immigrants who are not Canadian citizens. That includes many Mexicans, oddly enough. But also many Chinese and Middle Easterners find their way in by way of Canada. It also includes many Canadian citizens who are themselves immigrants or descended from immigrants. And legals who are not citizens.

Remember that Haitian trying to sneak in inside and an athletic bag?

http://www.saveourstate.info/showthread.php?t=1331

Our borders are very porous and we have many authorities in Canada who are as hostile to US sovereignty as leadership in Mexico. We need a national policy on all fronts and not just measured by Mexico.

Maybe the main difference between Mexico and Canada is that Canada is not as corrupt and Mexico serves as a gateway for so much drug trafficking. So much of it is grown in other South and Central American countries. Latin America pretty much owns coca production.

Of course a certain amount of marijuana comes in from being grown in Canada, but the weather is not nearly as good for it as it is in Mexico.
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