BREAKING! Obama Papers Leaking Out! Birth Papers-School Papers Exposed!

[Cruisingfool]

Your damn right I care!

[DerailAmnesty.com]

A couple questions for those of you who believe that Barack Obama is illegitimately occupying the White House:


A. If Barack Obama never attended Columbia, where he is thought to have completed his undergraduate education, how did he get into Harvard Law School?

B. How many people would have to unanimously agree to perpetuate, and then participate in, a successful conspiracy to lie about a Hawaiian state government birth certificate, and fake records relating to completing a 4 year degree at an Ivy League university?

[Rim05]

A couple questions for those of you who believe that Barack Obama is illegitimately occupying the White House:


A. If Barack Obama never attended Columbia, where he is thought to have completed his undergraduate education, how did he get into Harvard Law School?

B. How many people would have to unanimously agree to perpetuate, and then participate in, a successful conspiracy to lie about a Hawaiian state government birth certificate, and fake records relating to completing a 4 year degree at an Ivy League university?

I have never gotten into this Birther Thing. It just seems like a Dirty Harry movie. How did someone think about it in 1961, some simply will never give up their only hope. It seems like Comedy Forum to me.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Rim05

I have never gotten into this Birther Thing. It just seems like a Dirty Harry movie. How did someone think about it in 1961, some simply will never give up their only hope. It seems like Comedy Forum to me.

The compulsion to corrupt US citizenship goes back a long way and the obsession like that existed in the Obamination's mother is only matched by the reactionaries who insist in inflating the basic issue into something or somewhere else. Sort of like the assassination of JFK.

The guy should not even be a citizen, much less a president. It doesn't matter where he was born, what does matter is what is beyond debate, which is who his father was -- a noncitizen.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Twoller

The guy should not even be a citizen, much less a president. It doesn't matter where he was born, what does matter is what is beyond debate, which is who his father was -- a noncitizen.

That assertion is flat out wrong. You have misstated federal law pertaining to birthright citizenship.

Obama's mother is a U.S. citizen; further, his father was lawfully in the United States on a student visa (two currently irrelevant legal points). Obama was born on U.S. soil. Hence, he's a citizen.

Not only is what you have stated inaccurate, it would be inaccurate if the law was modified in the fashion many border security activists would like to see undertaken. Currently, a child is legally a U.S. citizen if he is born on U.S. soil, regardless of his parents' unlawful residency status. Many individuals feel this is the result of a perversion/misinterpretation of the Civil War Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. They opine that a person should not receive legal residency if born in our country, if one or more parents is an illegal alien. Even under this formula, Barack Obama would be a citizen.

So Twoller, you've got me confused. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, why isn't he a citizen?

[PochoPatriot]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

That assertion is flat out wrong. You have misstated federal law pertaining to birthright citizenship.

Obama's mother is a U.S. citizen; further, his father was lawfully in the United States on a student visa (two currently irrelevant legal points). Obama was born on U.S. soil. Hence, he's a citizen.

Not only is what you have stated inaccurate, it would be inaccurate if the law was modified in the fashion many border security activists would like to see undertaken. Currently, a child is legally a U.S. citizen if he is born on U.S. soil, regardless of his parents' unlawful residency status. Many individuals feel this is the result of a perversion/misinterpretation of the Civil War Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. They opine that a person should not receive legal residency if born in our country, if one or more parents is an illegal alien. Even under this formula, Barack Obama would be a citizen.

So Twoller, you've got me confused. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, why isn't he a citizen?

Ah, Sam, people like the one you're addressing have already made up their minds, so don't confuse them with the facts.

As an aside, this is one of the rabbit holes the border security movement has gone down, and lost a great deal of credibility due to it.

[Kathy63]

When dealing with a criminal enterprise it is always wise to use any weapon available.

Like this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32752.html


“We just hit him with a freight train,” one Democratic official familiar with the anti-Coats effort said Monday. “It’s Politics 101: Frame the guy early.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz0fG0ETcSf

It's the democratic political process FRAME THE GUY EARLY.

Considering that democrats want ozbama to take the next step, which is not only frame the guy but take out the opposition by assassination, gagsta style, it will be interesting to see how the public puts up with it.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/...ans/index.html

Channel your inner Al Capone and go gangsta against your foes. Let 'em know that if they aren't with you, they are against you, and will pay the price.

Democrats are basically criminals. Accusing ozbama of not being a citizen is mild, really mild compared with encouraging the government to engage in assassinations.

[Cruisingfool]

Originally Posted by PochoPatriot

Ah, Sam, people like the one you're addressing have already made up their minds, so don't confuse them with the facts.

As an aside, this is one of the rabbit holes the border security movement has gone down, and lost a great deal of credibility due to it.

Wouldn't you consider a person in this Country, serving as President, that has every item of his History sealed, and his Grandmother is on video in Mombasa, Kenya clearly stating she witnessed her grandturd being born in Mombasa, Kenya, as an illegal alien?

[Cruisingfool]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

That assertion is flat out wrong. You have misstated federal law pertaining to birthright citizenship.

Obama's mother is a U.S. citizen; further, his father was lawfully in the United States on a student visa (two currently irrelevant legal points). Obama was born on U.S. soil. Hence, he's a citizen.

Not only is what you have stated inaccurate, it would be inaccurate if the law was modified in the fashion many border security activists would like to see undertaken. Currently, a child is legally a U.S. citizen if he is born on U.S. soil, regardless of his parents' unlawful residency status. Many individuals feel this is the result of a perversion/misinterpretation of the Civil War Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. They opine that a person should not receive legal residency if born in our country, if one or more parents is an illegal alien. Even under this formula, Barack Obama would be a citizen.

So Twoller, you've got me confused. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, why isn't he a citizen?

You sir are flat out wrong! Obummers mother was under the age of 18 at the time of birth of this turd! She was married to a british citizen when she popped out this turd, you might want to check out the Law!

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Cruisingfool

You sir are flat out wrong! Obummers mother was under the age of 18 at the time of birth of this turd! She was married to a british citizen when she popped out this turd, you might want to check out the Law!

I do check out the law every now and then. What impact would Obama's mother being a minor and married (to anyone from anywhere) have upon the citizenship of her Hawaiian-born child?

Originally Posted by Star

The Constitution has special requirements for holders of the presidency. One of them is “natural born citizen.” That is a higher standard than “citizen.” It is a higher standard than “native citizen.”

Alright, then it is important where he was born, right? OK, what is the difference between a natural born citizen and a native citizen? Also, I'd be curious to know where you found or find the source that is the substance of your answer.

Originally Posted by Kathy63

No one ever needed to lie about a Hawaiian birth certificate. Look up the Hawaiian law. Because of a quirk in the law, any parent who is a resident of Hawaii can have the child's birth registered in the state any time up to their first birthday. That's why Hawaii has a registration of live birth instead of a certificate of live birth. The only "certificate" is the vault copy with the doctor's signature. He might very well be a natural born citizen and we would know that if he would permit that vault copy to be made public.

And how many people have access to the vault, Kathy? Are they all Obama sympathizers and supporters? How much money would it be worth to someone ... anyone ... to get a copy of this thing to a news source, presuming it states he was born in Kenya, Indonesia, MexiCali or whatever the story is this week?

Also, your response doesn't address how he got into law school, years before he ever held elected office, if he didn't complete his undergraduate work at Columbia as has been represented.