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I am so sick of infiltrators who undermine resistance with these kinds of comments. You will never defeat an enemy if you don't identify them.We're being invaded and overrun by Mexican hordes, not Canadian or Russians. |
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Yes, illegal immigrants are the enemy and anyone who tolerates illegal immigrants just because they are of European descent is an infiltrator and a subversive against the global struggle against that enemy. The US is not the only country who is struggling against illegal immigrants. Every country has a right to protect itself against people coming into the country who are not citizens of that country. China, India, Russia and even Mexico have the right and should be encouraged to enforce that right and be able to beat back and beat down tides of people swarming into their country.
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The United States of America is for citizens only! Everyone else OUT.
Criminalize asking party affilation for voter registration! End the "two party system"! |
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We should avoid declaring each other infiltrators so quickly. Our mission is to educate, and that means our own as well. I think it's best to try and bring people around first, and that's better accomplished without marginalizing them first.
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The United States of America is for citizens only! Everyone else OUT.
Criminalize asking party affilation for voter registration! End the "two party system"! Last edited by Twoller; 01-03-2010 at 11:02 AM. |
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This thread has gotten off topic. We need talking points with hard facts, figures and where they come from.
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Here is an inflation calculator I found which might be handy:
For one trade in housing construction, $10.00 an hour was a good wage non union in California in 1980. So, to stay even, one would have to make $27.41. However, I have seen adds in the paper, before the crash, for around $16.00 an hour. And that's if you are GOOD. I believe that quite a few illegals were working for less, but that's not a hard fact. Union scale in that trade in 1981 added up to $16.00 and change an hour if health and welfare were added in (I believe the wage by itself was $11.00 +) I believe scale (wage only) in 2005 was about $25.00. Let's say wage only was $11.35 hr... $24.26 in 2005, so union kept up with wage only... Non - Union from 1980 to 2005 @ $9.50 hr - 2005 would be $23.57 to stay even. That's a $7.57 hr difference. It doesn't have a date on it but it's in California... Refers to Union Scale and non union wage: I could be wrong, but I believe the non union wages cited are a tad high. CA Wages, Brick Masons union median range New, no experience: $10.00 $9.00 – $10.00 New, experienced: $17.00 $12.00 – $30.00 3 yrs+ experience: $28.00 $25.00 – $38.00 CA Wages, Concreete & Terrazzo Finishers nonunion median range New, no experience: $12.08 $11.51 – $12.81 New, experienced: $16.97 $13.42 – $19.18 3 yrs+ experience: $19.46 $14.14 – $22.05 union median range New, no experience: NA NA New, experienced: $22.00 $19.00 – $23.00 3 yrs+ experience: $23.00 $21.00 – $26.00 CA Wages, Plasterers & Stucco Masons union median range New, no experience: $10.00 $6.00 – $20.00 New, experienced: $18.00 $13.00 – $20.00 3 yrs+ experience: $24.00 $20.00 – $24.00 Apprentices start at 65% of the basic journey rate and receive a 5% increase each six months until they reach 90% of the journey rate, as the apprentice completes the necessary course work and on-the-job training. http://www.proteusinc.org/jobseekvid...eer/mason.html
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 01-04-2010 at 08:33 PM. |
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