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Old 01-03-2010, 03:08 AM
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""Anything that can help bring down the number of deaths at the border is a positive thing," said Jennaya Dunlap"

Then how about they stay home and stop sneaking in here? That would really bring down the desert death rate.
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Old 01-06-2010, 05:49 PM
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An opinion by Navarette concerning the issue. The column was headlined in the Daily News as:

Phone with GPS is wrong way to dial up disobedience

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Navarrette: Illegal border crossings aided by cell phone device

By Ruben Navarrette

01/06/2010

Want to cross into the United States illegally while keeping track of the location of the nearest water station and the distance to your final destination?

There's an app for that.

Several readers have asked what I think of a new cell phone dubbed by its inventor as a "trans-border immigrant tool."

I have mixed feelings. I would generally approve of instruments that help people survive dangerous situations. But when those people are illegal immigrants who brought their plight upon themselves by opting to enter the United States through a back door, I become less sympathetic. In fact, I become suspicious and I begin to question whether the makers of the gadget retrofitted with GPS technology are encouraging unlawful activity.

The device is the brainchild of Ricardo Dominguez, a professor of new media at the University of California at San Diego, who developed the idea along with fellow researchers at the California Institute for Telecommunications and Information Technology. Dominguez calls himself an "artivist" - part artist, part activist - and he describes his invention as a humanitarian tool, not a political one. He says that it is meant to save lives and not to promote illegal crossings.

This argument would be more convincing if the phones weren't encrypted to avoid electronic detection by the Border Patrol.

Apparently, the phones are also intended to enrich the soul. In addition to directions and distance traveled, Dominguez has said, the device - which costs about $30 to produce - will also be loaded with haiku-like poems with a welcoming theme.

Dominguez, who plans to distribute the phones to would-be border crossers through church groups and immigrant-advocacy organizations, insists he's doing nothing wrong. But he has also described himself as engaged in "civil disobedience" and asserted the ability of immigrants to move across borders safely as a "trans-global right."

Sorry, professor, you lost me.

First, if individuals do have such a right, then why does it supersede the right of sovereign nations to control their borders? On its southern border, Mexico asserts its right to keep out Guatemalans, Salvadorans, Hondurans and anyone else from throughout Latin America. Wouldn't people in Central and South America have the same "trans-global right" to cross into Mexico that Mexicans assert with regard to the United States? If Dominguez really believes in a right to cross borders, maybe he should ship some of his GPS devices all the way to Guatemala so people there can use them to sneak into Mexico?

Besides, the whole principle of civil disobedience is about breaking an unjust law and accepting the consequences. Henry David Thoreau went to jail for not paying the Massachusetts poll tax to protest the Mexican-American War.

Martin Luther King Jr. went to jail in Birmingham to protest Jim Crow. If Dominguez really believes he's following in that esteemed tradition, then he's acknowledging that he's breaking the law. And this means he's acknowledging that he's helping people enter the United States illegally. That's a crime.


While some people are complaining - loudly - that state tax dollars might have gone to fund this research, this element of the story doesn't bother me. University professors spend tax money on all kinds of controversial research, some to advance causes on the right and others to push agendas on the left. Why single out this instance? Moreover, Dominguez claims he has raised more than $15,000 in grant money.

What really bothers me is that Dominguez has, in the eternal drama playing out on the U.S.-Mexico border, gone from observer to enabler.

It's one thing to lament illegal immigration into the United States and try to react to it in a firm, honest and compassionate manner while battling hatred, racism and ignorance.

It's another to encourage more of it.

And why? Out of a sense of ethnic solidarity, an imaginary bond between a Latino academic and Latino immigrants? Because of a desire to grow, even by illegitimate means, the size of the Latino community in the hopes of increasing the political and economic power of the whole?

Latinos in the United States have it tough enough already. People are always assuming that when it comes to the immigration issue, our loyalties lie on the other side of the border. I usually dismiss those fears as flashes of paranoia. But this gadget says that those concerns aren't totally unfounded.

How unfortunate that, in trying to help illegal immigrants navigate their way across the U.S.-Mexico border, well-intentioned humanitarians could lose their own bearings.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:46 PM
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Well that was a surprising article from Navarrette. Very honest.
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Here's the guy's license:

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It's one thing to lament illegal immigration into the United States and try to react to it in a firm, honest and compassionate manner while battling hatred, racism and ignorance

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The people that have the monopoly on hatred, racism and ignorance are the illegal immigrants themselves, not people who are struggling against them. Illegal immigrants deserve to be hated and they are more racist then the shrill minority of racists who claim to oppose illegal immigration. Notice that white supremicists don't oppose illegal immigration from places they consider white populations. And who opposes illegal immigration except from direct experience? There is no ignorance there.

This guy is not honest. He is very slippery and not to be trusted with civil speech.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:30 PM
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The people that have the monopoly on hatred, racism and ignorance are the illegal immigrants themselves, not people who are struggling against them. Illegal immigrants deserve to be hated and they are more racist then the shrill minority of racists who claim to oppose illegal immigration. Notice that white supremicists don't oppose illegal immigration from places they consider white populations. And who opposes illegal immigration except from direct experience? There is no ignorance there.

This guy is not honest. He is very slippery and not to be trusted with civil speech.
In this particular case, I agree with every word he says.

Particularly the ones I enlarged, bold typed, red colored, italicized, and underlined.

The most important ones, which some people just can't comprehend.

Speaking very slowly while you take the cotton out of your ears...

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It's one thing to lament illegal immigration into the United States and try to react to it in a firm, honest and compassionate manner while battling hatred, racism and ignorance.

It's another to encourage more of it. (by pulling stupid stunts like aiding and abetting illegals)

And why?

Out of a sense of ethnic solidarity (Racism), an imaginary bond between a Latino (American citizen pretending to be Mexican) academic and Latino (illegal) immigrants?

Because of a desire to grow, even by illegitimate means (illegal immigration), the size of the Latino community in the hopes of increasing the political and economic power of the whole?

Latinos (the not illegal kind) in the United States have it tough enough already.

People (ethnically not "Latino") are always assuming that when it comes to the immigration issue, our (every person with a brown skin and Spanish last name) loyalties (monolithically) lie on the other side of the border.

I usually dismiss those fears as flashes of paranoia.

But this gadget (The GPS phones) says that those concerns aren't totally unfounded.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:11 PM
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The people that have the monopoly on hatred, racism and ignorance are the illegal immigrants themselves, not people who are struggling against them. Illegal immigrants deserve to be hated and they are more racist then the shrill minority of racists who claim to oppose illegal immigration. Notice that white supremicists don't oppose illegal immigration from places they consider white populations. And who opposes illegal immigration except from direct experience? There is no ignorance there.

This guy is not honest. He is very slippery and not to be trusted with civil speech.
I found what he wrote there to be honest. I may not agree with everything, but for the most part I do.
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