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I'm missing the ex post facto distinction you're making (???) You lost me, dude. I want illegal aliens to be deported. Whether they came here voluntarily or not is irrelevant as to current immigration laws. They're supposed to be removed, whether they arrived as adults or minors. As a byproduct of the parents being removed (not legal action), I realize that many who are removed will take their children with them to preserve family unity or out of economic necessity. I consider that a good thing. Anchor babies graduate from high school in low numbers and are more likely to have run ins with the criminal justice system. As many as the families will carry back home is all good, from my perspective. |
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Now a minor who was brought to this country illegally by parents entering this country illegally is an entirely different animal. I happen to know a young man who is in this predicament. It is a messy situation, but I have made it known to this young man must return to Mexico and come back legally now that he is of age. Most of those who advocate for him disagree with me. However, because of other issues that I will not enumerate here, I believe it behooves this young man to return to a country he has no knowledge of in order to make his status in this country legal. To me the real problem isn't the children (anchor babies or illegals). The real problem is the government and the education system that is run by leftist and Socialists. These children are being taught that whitey is the cause of all their problems. Ironically, they are being taught this by whites, go figure. Anyway, my concern is that the Constitution be upheld regardless of our personal convictions. Sometimes I think that in our righteous anger over this illegal invasion we are suffering we say things in anger or exasperation that we may not mean. Not to mention we say things that may not meet Constitutional muster.
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Why not? Why can't we make it retroactive? Do you think we would be better off if we could make it retroactive? Quote:
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The constitution is a fluid document. It was not carved in stone by God, it was written by human beings and we agree to it as a matter of citizenship and no other reason. We could change it to make it more explicit as to the issue of citizenship and who or who should not qualify as US citizens.
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The real problem is a government that does not enforce its sovereign borders. Quote:
So you are a liberal, then? Only liberals make this sort of statement. Yes, we could, and should, according to the manner in which the Constitution prescribes.
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Only a "liberal' would believe that we should be giving public education to the children of illegal immigrants. If we educate the children of illegal immigrants, that is just one more incentive for them to come here illegally.
Do you think the children of illegal immigrants should be US citizens by birth? If not, then why not and if you have a good reason, then why should the children of illegal immigrants ever be considered US citizens? "If you are so willing to do this to illegals, then I would presume that you would have no issue with the government doing the same to you, correct?" What the government does to illegals has nothing to do with what the US government can or can't do to US citizens. Why is it necessary to explain this?
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Criminalize asking party affilation for voter registration! End the "two party system"! Last edited by Twoller; 12-18-2009 at 01:53 PM. |
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The good reason I have that children born in the past and until the law changes are American citizens is US case law. You might want to read those decisions. Quote:
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I know that part of the arsenal of those who threaten the sovereignty of peoples everywhere is the promise that their own laws will be twisted against them. The first obligation of our legal system is the protection of US citizens and the first obligation of our legal system in regards to illegal immigrants is removing them from the country. And their offspring. The role of the constitution in the affairs of illegal immigrants and anyone who is not a citizen extends only to the extent that it protects citizens first. We will not corrupt our laws by creating a second legal system for people who are not citizens. The United States of America exists for its states and its citizens in those states. There is nobody or nothing else that those citizens have any cause to be concerned with. And there is nobody or nothing else that its government has cause to be concerned with. Everyone else who steps foot in this country is a guest and should presume absolutely and unequivocally nothing more. And those who have falsely assumed the guise of US citizenship are something considerably less than guests.
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The United States of America is for citizens only! Everyone else OUT.
Criminalize asking party affilation for voter registration! End the "two party system"! |
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