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Here is an article that I read on Yahoo news.
http://news.yahoo.com/john-boehner-c...060600598.html The article is aptly titled, "How to get John Boehner to cave". The article raised some accurate points about how Boehner caves when there is a time limit to reach a deal, such as in hurricane Sandy, and the debt ceiling battles. I don't see a time crunch in regards to amnesty, and poll after poll has shown the vast majority of Americans are hardly focused on it and a new NBC poll that I saw today showed over 52% of Americans are totally against any type of legalization for illegals. In my opinion the article falls flat when it fails to show how "immigration reform" AKA amnesty would be a win for Republicans. The article try's to say that passing amnesty will by a big face saving win for Republicans when In fact it's quite the opposite. "immigration reform is very unpopular with Republicans and extremely popular with Democrats. It's even more eye opening to see all the timely coordination and orchestration of new pro amnesty stories being released today in wake of the debt ceiling problem being out of the way for the moment. If amnesty was so popular, why the need to have such a heavy handed coordination in broadcasting the pro amnesty point of view. It also doesn't go unnoticed that as of my reading of the article there were around 2300 commentators, overwhelmingly anti amnesty. Last edited by Greg in LA; 10-18-2013 at 06:41 PM. |
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There was an old method of execution which involved placing a large sheet of wood over the intended and gradually placing stones on the wood until the person was suffocated or otherwise crushed to death. The media is face down in the proverbial leftist lap, they want to see an amnesty and they will propagandize and spin until it's an accomplished fact or a moot or dangerous issue to push. The local southern California papers were full of daily "poor, downtrodden, oppressed immigrant just trying to feed his family" stories until the 2008 recession when it was difficult to proceed with that slant with an effective 16% or more unemployment figure (The EDD and federal figures are always low for what they don't take into account concerning the under and fully unemployed) without a serious backlash and decline in sales. However, the local print media is getting back into the mode with stories featuring "undocumented" college students who "aren't afraid" (while ignoring the large high school drop out rates of their siblings and cousins) rather than the minimally English speaking lawn rakers and unskilled nail pounders the media previously spun into model citizens... ...still keeping the pressure on.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 10-19-2013 at 06:10 AM. |
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I simply cannot understand why 'we the people' are not doing more. I realize that those of us who have been fighting for so long, such as AG and my self, are tired and have grown older. It is time for the younger citizens to take the reins from us.
I am still here but not on the streets. Scoff at Dems but all are not as they are protrayed. That notion is like the spin you see in the papers and on TV. |
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On the other hand, since the late 60's and certainly revved up since the early 80's is the far left indoctrination presented in public schools as "education". We have to get past that impediment, as well as all the middle class college graduates who have been successfully propagandized and are politically active. In general there is an age division concerning amnesty. Older will tend to be against, and younger will tend to be for. Most who are receiving social services or are employed in some fashion catering to immigration are in the far left pocket - blindly or not, a DHS employee who processes naturalization documents is not going to be against amnesty, nor is anyone receiving social services going to vote Republican. Quote:
I believe that in different times and different places certain labels have different meanings. "Liberal" and "Conservative" would mean something different in 19th century America than they do in the 21st century, and certainly the 21st century Republican and Democrat parties are different from the times of presidents Jackson, Lincoln and both Roosevelts. To be conservative or liberal in 19th century Mexico (and probably any other time) is not what we would assume by our late 20th - early 21st century American understandings. As well, nutball, far left "Progressivism" has usurped the label of "Liberal", which is further attached to the Democrat Party.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 10-19-2013 at 06:59 AM. |
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Oh Rim, I am not that tired. I have grown older of course, but the fire still burns hot on this issue for me. I'm not as active lately due to a couple of other reasons. I'm hoping that things will turn around soon for that. I'll be posting something about that here in the near future.
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What I've noticed has really changed is the lack of skilled labor. The last few months Fillmore advertised for a full time City Maintenance II position starting between $17.50-$21.50 an hour. They ran the ad for about 6 weeks and a few people applied but no one could meet the qualifications. So now the City is lowering its expectations and will be advertising for a Maintenance I which is close to an entry level position. This sort of thing is happening everywhere. What has happened is Americans have been pushed away from working certain jobs because they either don't speak Spanish or the HR's will only hire Hispanics and most young people don't want to take the time it takes to obtain the skills or invest in the education to get the theory. We have a really ignorant work force these days. Really skilled labor is getting harder and harder to find. This is going to have a really negative impact on this country and it won't matter who is in charge.
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Oh Rim, I am not that tired. I have grown older of course, but the fire still burns hot on this issue
I don't mean that as something bad. When you talked about 'something' keeping you down, I thought you were ill. Glad to hear you are not. That old age thing just keeps counting. Tired comes with the age. No hard feelings? |
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Hi Guys
We here on the east coast appreciate our fellow Americans on the West Coast. The fire burns in your belly.
Not to disparage, we New Yorkers lost 3,000 of our good and decent people including friends and family members permanently injured 9/11 2001. The collateral damage continues. At present over 40,000 injured, damaged, injured, sick dying from toxic pollution . In addition we have survived 14 fourteen malevolent attacks by lunatic terrorists. On that theme I'm providing here a link to new studies about illegal immigration crimes. My data that I have distributed for years has now been eclipsed by this shocking addition. I have contacted the author for updates and additions and also significantly distributed this to law enforcement and politicians. http://cis.org/myth-law-abiding-illegal-alien Thanks for what you all do to rescue our great nation. |
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Jean, can you give me the info to apply for that maintenance job?
I think I might know someone who might want it. |
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You'd have to contact the City of Fillmore City Hall. I'm not sure when or if they've already advertised for the job, but you can ask. They by law have to advertise for any city position. Anyone with some sort of skill set should land that job if they apply.
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