LAUSD, EL's, and scamming the system

[Twoller]

Who says we are under any obligation to teach anyone English? If you cannot speak English, you have no reason to be here.

What is really the problem? Their parents don't speak English. What good is public education in the common language when the kids go home and nobody speaks it? Their parents are here because welfare is not allowed to illegals, but it is to "families", the kids of the illegals.

No more government benefits to the children of illegals. No more classes in English as a second language.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

As some of you know I have a close friend who teaches ESL at a community college. She said some of the teachers have been cut, but there are still plenty of classes. She teaches at level 6 and told me last week that she had just found out some of her students were also enrolled in level 7 at the same time. What upset her was that these same students should only be at level 5, but are allowed to enter at just about any class they want and in two classes at the same time.

I asked her if they were paying for the classes. She said probably not, because of the Boag Fee Waver, where they simply fill out a half page form stating they don't make much money. No one really checks to make sure the information is true, they just get the classes for free. She was also angry that many of these same students get free books and supplies, along with other grants. They aren't getting anything out of these classes because the classes are so above their level of understanding, but our tax dollars are paying for them.

She also said that they're dumb as a door knob, and that she's lucky if one or two actually have the cognitive ability to gain from the classes. That was her opinion and she's a liberal through and through.

[ilbegone]

I was told that if one fills out the elementery school enrollment form and checks a box indicating that the head of household didn't have a social security number, everything at school was automatically carte blanc free from meals to tutoring.

I'll have to carefully ask again.

What is the Boag fee waiver?

I had a conversation a couple of days ago with a recent graduate of the UC San Bernardino. I tried to be objective and not ask leading questions.

What I got out of it was that admissions and courses had been dumbed down in order meet the numbers required for "diversity", and that most students shop easy classes and educators who let students slide. My impression is that it is about the same thing could be accomplished with an 8 hour dog and pony "certification" show, an "I now pronounce thee qualified" degree.

I also asked about how some professor's didn't seem to be around enough to actually teach anything, and he told me there was someting like six or eight different classifications of professors, something roughly akin to full time to part time specialists. This might account how some are on the University payroll with department titles, but are always off somewhere else on some "activist" crusade or cranking out high priced agenda laden books.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

I was told that if one fills out the elementery school enrollment form and checks a box indicating that the head of household didn't have a social security number, everything at school was automatically carte blanc free from meals to tutoring.

I'll have to carefully ask again.

What is the Boag fee waiver?

I had a conversation a couple of days ago with a recent graduate of the UC San Bernardino. I tried to be objective and not ask leading questions.

What I got out of it was that admissions and courses had been dumbed down in order meet the numbers required for "diversity", and that most students shop easy classes and educators who let students slide. My impression is that it is about the same thing could be accomplished with an 8 hour dog and pony "certification" show, an "I now pronounce thee qualified" degree.

I also asked about how some professor's didn't seem to be around enough to actually teach anything, and he told me there was someting like six or eight different classifications of professors, something roughly akin to full time to part time specialists. This might account how some are on the University payroll with department titles, but are always off somewhere else on some "activist" crusade or cranking out high priced agenda laden books.

A Boag (I hope I spelled it correctly) is a waver from the state of California that is like a grant and is available on all junior colleges. All your classes are free and there's often a reduction on other things like parking which is also sometimes free. The California taxpayer pays for just about everything with a Boag fee waver. For a full or part time student the cost is usually less than $30 dollars for the semester. That's it. And the illegals fill these forms out first thing.