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Would anyone purchase anything manufactured in the countries these people come out of? Of course if we are talking about China, we don't have much choice.
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You would not have heard this out of the media last year, it's a lot of what I've been saying over the years:
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What is a comfortable conviction when times are easier might involve a change of mind when the personal pocketbook is concerned as far as a view concerning illegal immigration. I know a number of Latinos who do not like illegal immigration, and not all of them are old fart "vendidos" and they do include first generation born in America with Mexican parentage. And not all support "the path to citizenship", I believe that figure is lower. I believe the 82% figure of the American born is derived by both the way poll questions on the subject were asked and respondents who have close relatives who are illegal. There have been illegals who collect unemployment under one name while working under another, and a period of genuine unemployment doesn't change the fact that California doesn't check the legal status of welfare check recipients. A person receiving welfare checks from the State of California certifies by signature and I believe under penalty of perjury that the recipient is of legal status.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 10-30-2010 at 12:57 PM. |
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This has been going on for so long that most people do not remember when it started, probably at least 35 years ago. |
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Latinos souring on illegal immigration
Ryan Hagen, Staff Writer 10/30/2010 A new study shows Latinos have soured considerably on illegal immigration in the last three years. In 2007, 50 percent of Latinos surveyed told the Pew Hispanic Center that the growing number of illegal immigrants was a positive force for the existing Latino population. In a Pew survey released Thursday, that number had plummeted to 29 percent. Thirty-one percent said illegal immigration had a negative effect, and 20percent said it had no effect. While the wording of the question changed slightly in 2010 - striking the phrase "growing number" to reflect studies that show illegal immigration declining - several local advocates on different sides of the issue called the change in perception unsurprising. Those Inland Empire voices diverged significantly, however, when it came to explaining the shift and what it means for immigration policy. Raymond Herrera, president and founder of a Claremont-based group called We the People, California's Crusader, said political will has been shifting since 2004. Herrera said that's when activists like him began loudly calling for reform, slowly building what he said is a national consensus that illegal immigrants should be deported. "The Minutemen stood up six years ago and brought the awareness level to the American people," he said. "It is now at an apex where ... enough people have had their American dream stolen (by illegal immigrants)." The head of a center that provides legal and other assistance to immigrants disagreed. Emilio Amaya, executive director of the San Bernardino Community Resource Center, said the growing negative attitudes are an understandable but flawed response to a faltering economy. "In these difficult financial times, even immigrants see themselves competing against new immigrants," Amaya said. "(But) they don't really compete because most people, older immigrants, they already have different (job) skills." Amaya said illegal immigrants should be fined and "sent to the back of the line," matching the opinion of 53 percent of Latinos. The Pew survey found 13 percent of Latinos advocate deportation, while 28 percent said illegal immigrants should not be punished. Political and economic factors often shift Latino opinions of immigration, noted Cherstin Lyon, who studies at Cal State San Bernardino. "Mexican-American populations have been divided throughout the 20thcentury, and (opinions) largely changed since the 1970s," she said. "Most famously, Cesar Chavez came under intense attack from others within the Chicano movement because he ... encouraged punishments of those hiring illegal immigrants." Lyon had not yet read the study but said crackdowns - such as Arizona's S.B. 1070, which allows police to check immigration status if they suspect a person they've already stopped is in the country illegally - tend to encourage discrimination against Hispanic-looking people. However, 34 percent of Latinos said they, a family member or a close friend experienced discrimination because of their race or ethnic group in the last five years - up 2 percent from 2009, before Arizona's law was proposed. Pew surveyed 1,375 Latino adults in English and Spanish from Aug. 17 until Sept. 19. http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_16478933
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. |
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I have to say that a lot of Americans do not seem to remember the beginning of this madness. It actually started in the 70s but it was so gradual most did not notice or maybe did not care.
Most of the Hispanic community are ok with it because, now grandpa and grandma, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles...........you get the picture, The whole community is here. Do you think they, the new comers care, I don't think so? |
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The ones first generation born in America of Mexican parents who remember the forties and fifties are getting old and with increasing frequency are mentioned in the obituary. They are the ones who had it hard with their in between-ness, and they and their descendants are not the same people who come here now, and they never were. There is a huge difference with time and former distance. I first saw illegals come to my semi isolated town in the middle seventies, when I first worked with them. I don't believe that even they were the same people who come here now, it seems there was a different attitude. In my experience, the flood gate opened just after the n1981 recession, when devaluation of the peso wiped out whatever incremental gains to a Mexican middle class since the revolution, and whatever money the poor managed to bury in jars became worthless. The failing of the American people in regards to illegal immigration lay not in those Mexicans, but in the business interest in bargain basement labor and politicians who refused to enforce the 1986 immigration law they themselves legislated. I believe that the collusion between business, government, and the co-opted educational system combined with what I believe to generally be a lower class of people immigrating than before - and in such volume since the 1986 amnesty - has resulted in such a wellspring of expectant entitlement and extended family ties which just weren't here before. The separateness for many born in America and those of extended generations is now pushed by both real ties and artificial means as well as persistent and contrived racial consciousness, but they aren't fully Mexican in the sense of culture or language, and they never will be. However illegal immigration is going to be resolved, no one on either side will be satisfied with the outcome, and there will be lingering pain and resentment. You can take that one to the bank.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 10-31-2010 at 06:58 AM. |
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