The Attack Of The Stroller Pushers

[ilbegone]

The thread is hard to read and maybe reproductions such as this would benefit from a little judicious clean up concerning readability.

And while I do believe that, unlike in past migrations from Latin America, a greater percentage of lower class individuals with greater levels of ignorance and other less desirable attributes are permanently moving here, I agree with this post by Madamme Butterfly:

I have been watching this thread for some time now and I want to put my three cents into the hat.\n\n1) Agreed, illegal aliens having babies in our country is a problem and that latino/hispanic cultures generally have more children than is the norm in America.\n\n2) I find the picture of the pregnant girl and general tone of this thread to be tasteless. While I understand the underlying sentiment, this thread has been very painful for me to watch develop. I think there are more intelligent ways to argue against automatic citizenship resulting from birth and to document pregnancy rates among different groups. You're entitled to your opinions and to vent but for the record, this one crossed that line for me.\n\n3) I do a lot of work with pregnant teenagers and a lot of research on the subject as a whole. Some of the ideas presented in this thread actually have factual basis but much of it is assumption based on personal experience that is not indicative of national trends. Illegal immigrants are not the single most prolific group of pregnant teens, nor are they the most likely to seek State or Federal benefits for their children. However, theyin the top three by both percentage of total population and by nominal quantitative analysis.\n\nAgain, I understand the frustration and our board is a welcoming place to vent on these issues but seriously...this is over the top.\n\np.s. I plan on having at least 5 children to repopulate America...lol'

Here is the bottom line of it all:

If politicians on both sides of the isle weren't colluding on neutralizing immigration law, there wouldn't be such a problem as alluded to in this thread.

And, if those same politicians didn't look the other way concerning American employers hiring illegal labor...

The problem is of a white American origin in spite of the great efforts of the Latino activist block to make that problem a much bigger one.

Politicians of every stripe need to understand that their "public service" will be a short one term show if they don't get their act together concerning illegal immigration. Illegals wouldn't come here without a payoff for their trouble.

[wetibbe]

Why so many babies:

* First the campesinos and obreros engage in their favorite past time. Doesn't really matter if they are married, or sub-teen age, or are forcibly raped.

* Secondly they are amoral and unconscionable as well as irresponsible.

* Thirdly, they get to drop the anchor with all of the attendant goodies, prenatal care, free hospitalization, welfare, food stamps, local entitlements all amounting to an estimated income of $10,000 per year per child. And ultimately chain migration.

* Fourthly, their Government and the Latino/Hispanic racist groups promote the overpopulation of the USA with Latinos and the eventual goal of dominating and spreading their culture and language in America.

* Fifthly surely the Catholic church plays a big role in infuencing them to not use contraceptives, not have abortions and to do like the bible says - pro-create abundantly.

* Sixthly - free education. In Mexico school is mandatory only to the 6th grade. After that the parents pay and it is somewhat synonymous to our colleges here, the student pays for further education. In Mexico the student pays after 6th grade. *( Here in my state some Guatemalans have been apprehended that are illiterate and cannot count numbers ).

* Seventh - job opportunity. Picking corn back home pays $4.00 per day. Here the going rate for a day laborer is $10.00 per hour in the North East and around $7.00 per hour in the Southern border states. *( New York State minumum wage is $7.25 per hour including domestic help. Meg Whitman's maid Nicky Diaz Santillan was paid $23 per hour, 3 three times the NYS minimum wage.

Here are New York State Departmernt of Labor prevailing wages for State financed construction jobs. These scales are basically union wages.

http://wpp.labor.state.ny.us/wpp/vie...ageSchedule.do

Nicky Diaz was paid more, as domestic help, than many of these skilled workers such as journeymen and those in their 3rd and 4th year. Her hourly rate was above that of the majority of non-union workers such as carpenters, plumbers, operating engineers.

[ohighlass]

I remember when I was working at the polling place a couple of years ago. All the mexican stations were promoting, "Get out and Vote" to their listeners.

While at the polling place, three mexican women entered - none speaking English, of course, and obvioulsy of the illegal persuasion. One was the grandmother, one was pregnant, and one was pregnant and pushing a little girl in a stroller. It was as if they were attempting to proclaim, 'BEHOLD THE WOMBS THAT CONTAIN YOUR FUTURE' ----

I will also mention that none of them filled out their ballots correctly and were then tossed into the "cannot count" pile.

Breeding the Caucasions out of majority status has been going on for quite a while. The blacks have been doing it for years. Two weeks ago a black man was on the America's Most Wanted criminals list of the show. John W said is was impossible to track the man down to family ties and probable hide-outs due to the fact that he had 270 couisins. Now the muslims are attempting to outbreed us all.

My husband and I believed the garbage that green peace and the sierra club threw at us in the 70s and 80s to "Have only 1-2 children in order to SAVE THE PLANET." Where are they now? What is their mantra now? They don't even care about the trash left behind in the Sonora Desert.