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When the Mexican grandmother dies, the family is no longer Mexican. In my scenario, grandma ain't around, and familial connections become a distant memory. Besides, at least until the last few years (with the problems in Mexico becoming intolerable), Mexicans didn't come here for a better life in America. They came to make money and return to Mexico. But they get wrapped up in the convenience of Walmart and rarely make enough money to buy that ranch. The weeks slip into years, and after a while, while not really liking America, they themselves have changed to where Mexico is no longer "comfortable". And I'm not denying that Mexicans game our system or that there are not criminals among them, they do and there are. But the adults have the memory of Mexico, the children don't. If you actually read what I proposed, the criminals and slackers among those brought here as children get sent back with or in addition to their parents. The others are the ones I propose permanent non voting residency for.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 08-26-2010 at 12:39 PM. |
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The question is whether or not your scheme rewards families who engage in illegal alien conduct. It undoubtedly does. Above, two family members get sent back (wealthier than they came in, and with quality prospects for receiving assistance from El Norte that they didn't have before). Meanwhile every other family member has landed the lottery prize of life in the wealthiest, most egalitarian nation on Earth. And the only reason any of this fell into their laps is because Pablo and Juanita undertook premeditated and systematic criminal activities in our nation. You mean like these children? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ9mpBSqZs0
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 08-27-2010 at 12:46 AM. |
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Gratuitous? Coochie? Mom? Wow, where did that come from? Dude, chill. I'm analyzing what you proposed, not deriding you. Since you appear to be more than a bit sensitive about this topic (this is the second time you snapped at me in this thread), I'll keep this real short and not post anything further: Your plan rewards families of illegal aliens for knowingly violating our laws. And a lot of the beneficiaries of the residency rights your plan doles out, don't feel a great deal of appreciation or allegiance to the U.S. Further, the people who will be saddled with the expenses and imposition of uninvited foreign nationals now permanently amongst us, that your plan results in, are American citizen taxpayers who have done nothing wrong. Absolutely best case scenario with your plan - In a few generations all traces of loyalties to Raza separatism, allegiance to foreign nations and disrespect for America are absent from the progeny of the illegals you let stay. Further, all offspring of people your plan provided amnesty to are educated, self-sufficient and paying more than their fair share in taxes. That's all great, assuming everything works out perfectly, except for one thing. You, me and everyone who reads this thread today will have been dead for many years. I have an alternate proposal: Throw illegals out and permanently bar them from readmission to the United States. Then reduce legal immigration into this country from Mexico and other major violators of our nation's sovereignty, by two thirds. Absolutely best case scenario with my proposal - The U.S. is no longer a dumping ground for the impoverished, excess population that Latin America sees fit to send our way. And perhaps most significantly, you, me and everyone reading this get to have a few years wherein we actually reside in America again and are spared from having to cohabitate, for the rest of our days, with the offspring of criminals your scheme turns into our permanent neighbors. Have a nice day and go in peace.
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I snapped at you once, which was today, the first delivery was a reply to twoller. You may have taken an earlier assertion to the effect that I'm not going to be badgered as a "snap". And I saw that when you read what I had to say to you today, you left for a while to work your mouth around and get some composure to word things a little better in your replying post. I'll tell you where I'm coming from, I don't think you will get it. We were eating breakfast this morning when an ancient Mexican tune softly came over the speakers in the restaurant. Both Elena and the much younger Mexican woman serving us, in their different places, began singing quietly to the song. AS I was eating my Huevos con chorizo and beans with torn pieces of tortilla, I mused how at the same time these women were much alike and yet had such a chasm between them. Elena's father was from a Mexico which is no more yet will always be. A much older and long deceased brother was a tail gunner over Germany. As a child, Elena and her young cousins had been run across the highway and over the tracks by adult white men simply for wanting to get ice cream from a "white" establishment. On the other hand, I despise the Mexicans who took over a former trade and the presumptuousness of many of them. As a rule, I don't trust Mexicans, and when any of them address me as "my friend" one too many times, which is more than once, I become suspicious. However, as I have stated here before, I'm in a weird place in my head with Mexican Nationals - all at the same time I love them and I hate them all. Yet I've also been around many of their adult children - people with all sorts of outlooks, personalities, and various proclivities. However, regardless of what type of people they individually are, they are not their parents. I am curious about them all, I learn as much as I can about them. "They" are not all the same, particularly through the extended generations. Yet to you and twoller, it seems every one of "them" is a gang banging spray painting "anchor baby" reconquista menace who habitually pisses in public while swigging forty ouncers. So, I have to extend my middle finger when I'm blanketed with "amnesty for criminals" and directed to a youtube entry which is sure to feature a bunch of brown knuckle heads. You insulted me when you did that. To me you are suggesting that crap like that is a part of my household and the extended family as well. There's not much difference between your stereotyping and those who bandy about pictures of white trailer trash surrounded by a mountain of empty beer cans as if you personally had an address there. And I stick to my assertion that if someone looks long and hard enough, there will surface an embarrassing picture of someone in your family, maybe even of you. As an addendum, I will admit that going over your last two posts again they weren't quite like I took them, nor have I hit the youtube link.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 08-27-2010 at 12:43 AM. |
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