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As far as I know she is the only candidate for governer that supports 1070. Isn't that worth anything? I don't really care how she gets along with anyone, I'm not looking for a roommate.
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I see pretty much all of Chelene's platform as a sideshow. If you got nuthin' else, you entertain 'em. Hey! I am bankrupt, I owe my friends, I lie, I cheat, I have no credible management skills,... But I support SB1070, lower taxes, and the second amendment. Hoooorah! |
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I'd still like to hear something about Chelene on the issues. Are you saying that she doesn't really support 1070? All the other bad stuff I am hearing about her here doesn't appear to have anything to do with any kind of public issues. It sounds like all the obvious limitations of her candidacy, which are her availability to regular folks like us, also are generating a lot of personal contempt. I can sympathize, but I'd still like to know where she is falling down on the issues, if at all. Where does she stand on Proposition 19?
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You're asking the wrong guy about chelena's stance on the issues. I've come to know her as a lying, dishonest, manipulative, megalomaniac. I don't take what people like that say to heart anymore. If they lie to me, or about me, or about people I know, why wouldn't they lie to thier constituents to get elected? |
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I don't know the cases you are talking about. The only thing I or anyone else sees is other posters talking the same way and no instances spoken of there either. Even at the personal level, it seems that the rest of us aren't required to have a clue, we are just susposed to take cues from the rest of you who have more direct experience. Chelene -- notice the easy use of the first name -- is the only California candidate, as far as I know supporting 1070. But the only thing you have to show skepticism for that support is personal experience and no instances to report. How many people tuning in here don't know you any more than they know Chelene?
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Not that people haven't seen through her already; I'm sure they have. That's why she hasn't seen a rush to her forum, or to her donations box. |
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If we can collect a body of criticism based on some observations that we can all share, we can lay them at Chelene's feet and expect some kind of credible response. She is a candidate and needs to respond to the general public. Her party affliations are not an issue at this point. For example, if she does not sincerely support 1070, then we need to see some substance in her stand on the issue.
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Her position on the issues is largely irrelevant. She's a liar ... to the marrow. The one thing to which Chelene has shown unwavering loyalty has been what she considers her own best interests. Every time, no exceptions. When pushed, she chooses to serve herself. She's sacrificed friendships, nearly destroyed a successful activist entity, and enthusiastically attacked the reputations of folks who were accomplishing a lot more than her in the fight against illegal immigration (Ray and Robin and the Campo folks top that list). She's willing to have substantial prices paid if she believes it holds for her some manner of benefit. The point being, when push comes to shove, she'll abandon her positions if she thinks such will land her recognition, votes or whatever else she needs to stay in the public eye. Chelene's welfare, uber alles. That's the governing principle. That's what the record evidences. However, if you're still curious as to what she's peddling as an office seeker, her stated positions are on her website.
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Nothing is happening over there at the forums anyway.
Somewhere before November, the candidates for governor are going to have to say something about Proposition 19. I can wait.
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