|
The Media Topics and information relating to the Media (publications, television, press, first amendment issues, etc) of interest to SOS Associates and Users |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
You're right, precedent exists for what you suggest. They used to have black-only units, also. The question is (as per the standards you are fleshing out), does integrating homosexuals with straights present a problem so insurmountable that cohesion and harmony can't exist? So far, based upon the record, I'd say it doesn't bode well for you. The military doesn't separate the Jews and the Muslims, the Catholics and the Protestants or even enlistees who have had ties or family members associated with the Bloods and the Crips. All these disparate groups have largely managed to function together. Further, there are plenty of gays who have put their time in the Armed Forces and been decorated for meritorious and heroic service (and they weren't performing segregated duty at the time they logged their accomplishments). And of course, Davi, we have now wandered well off the path taken by the guy who wrote the piece, above, who was arguing that gays shouldn't serve for medical-related reasons.
__________________
|
#2
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joini.../military6.htm Quote:
|
#3
|
|||
|
|||
In many areas of life, not in the military, gays end up segregated. The military will end up segregated as well. But, that's not where the damage will occur with gays openly serving.
Socially, gays end up segregated in bars and yes, even in public gyms. Why are there gay bars? Why are there gay hotels and resorts? Partly it's a result of self segregation, partly it's a result of behavior that others simply do not want to put up with. The worst of the damage though won't be through the acts or behavior of men and women who are homosexual and simply want to live and love on their own. The worst of the damage will come from the gay activists to whom permission to serve openly won't be nearly enough to meet their demands. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
OK, I'll bite. What would be the compelling justification for your separate-but-equal scheme? Tell me why homosexuals and heterosexuals can't sleep in the same barracks and use the same shower facilities. How is this different than cohabitation with members of races one doesn't like or members of religious groups one detests?
__________________
|
#5
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
In the latter examples you cited, the sexual attraction is not normally an issue. You may not like a religious bent or practice of another soldier, but he isn't generally lusting after you. Lust is a stronger emotion, and attraction is attached to a physical reaction. You don't have those drivers in racial or religious arenas. Have you ever looked into stories written about the very high incidence of rape of women in the military? It appears quite disturbing. Not saying the ratio would be the same between homo/straight soldiers at all, but rather pointing out the strength that physical attraction can have when the players are living under restrictive conditions. |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
I don't think the two issues of heterosexual rape and homosexuals in the military have anything to do with each other. I think the incidences of rape have more to do with criminality in the military in general and the increased opportunity for rapists to act as women increase their presence in the military.
Homosexuals represent a minority population based on behavior. Anyone who wants to can perform homosexual acts for any reason they want to. Because homosexuality is a behavioral issue, then anyone who decides they are a homosexual has made a decision, for whatever reason, that is not conducive to life in a sexually segregated environment. Again, it is worth considering the history of homosexuals in the military. Many homosexuals argue that history is full of famous homosexuals who were in the military. Many have even argued that homosexuals are superior performers in the military. It all goes back to the basic challenge of national defense which argues that we must have a population of people -- mostly males -- who live to be prepared to wage war and that this must be a first priority in their lives in military. You might argue that not only is homosexuality not something to be tolerated in the military, but also raising a family. Military life is tough and demanding and takes a toll on anyone's life who has not made an honest and reasonable commitment to it.
__________________
The United States of America is for citizens only! Everyone else OUT.
Criminalize asking party affilation for voter registration! End the "two party system"! |
|
|