The Bulls And Bullshitters Of The Patriot Movement

[wetibbe]

There surely are many names missing on a national scale.

DA King, The Dustin Inman Society/ Secure American Borders
Michael Hethmon, IRLI
Kris Kobach, Immigration Reform Law Institute
Ron Bass, United Patriots of America
Gayle Kesselman, NJCIC
Carmen Morales, UPA
Col. Al Rodrigues, You Don't Speak For Me.
John Tanton, John Tanton Network
Dan Stein, FAIR
Susan Tully, FAIR
Roy Beck, Numbers USA
Rosemary Jenks, Numbers USA
Daneen Peterson, Stop the North American Union
Martin Mawyer, Christian Action Network
Michael Cutler, CIS
Peter Gadiel, 911 Families
Paul Streitz, CTCIC
JT Ready, Minuteman Civil Defense
Bill Davis, Cochise County Militia
Doug Hageman, North East Intelligence Network
George Friedman, Stratfor
Carol Swain, Vanderbilt U. *( Meet Carol - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08JprBSLTk ).
Progress Rose, NY'ers for Immigration Control & Enforcement



*( BTW I didn't see Jim Gilchrist evaluated and categorized ).

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

*( BTW I didn't see Jim Gilchrist evaluated and categorized ).

I'm not sure where to place him. He isn't active at all anymore. Seems he won't do anything unless he gets the support of many. If he really wants to kick start his troops again, he's going to have to lead, and I've not seen that for some time.
Jim was a bull, but he's out to pasture now?

These other people are bulls, but in their own arena. They're not generally street activist types like us, although their brand of activism generates results. I think it's an apples and oranges type comparison. Plus, some of them I know, and some I don't. I don't think any of those on your list are bullshitters though

[wetibbe]

Seeds have been planted.

The movement currently is to place 200 hard core veterans on the mountain tops in Arizona. JG was soliciting donations for that. I received his E-mail. If funds come available it may progress.

In the meantime, the State of Arizona gave Sheriff Paul Babue $1 million. CBP "joint ventured" with state and local law enforcement and operated in the White Bell Mountain area for two months. The net result was around 728 traffickers apprehended, $4.4 million in drugs confiscated and 17 fire arms taken in.

In the meantime the House of Representatives approved $2 million to clean off the mountain tops and hire more shadow wolves, Native American trackers. It was pending approval by the Senate.

Governor Jan Brewer created a donations website and has taken in quite a bit of money already, over $1.5 million.. http://www.keepazsafe.com/

Another website is debuting sponsored by AZ Senators which will have festivities at Casa Grande on the date the New AZ laws take effect. It will be attended by dignitaries including the State Senate President Russell Pearce and AZ Attorney General Tom Horne. The website is soliciting donations from citizens for fence building.

The seeds that have been planted, and are germinating, include mobilizing 200 hard core veterans to mountain tops and also 2,000 volunteers to build fences. Conditions of volunteering, proposed to the state are: Reimbursement for travel expenses, meals and lodging. But NO compensation. At this writing we do NOT know if Arizona will consider it.

Being a professional accountant Jim is well qualified professionally to keep track of the money movements. And to recruit and field appropriate volunteers after vetting. Volunteers would pay their own way, buy meals and pay lodging then submit receipts for reimbursement.

Since Governor Brewer intends to use convict labor she has to transport, feed and house them and also pay them a minimum daily stipend. The volunteers would be treated the same except not compensated. A volunteer duration would be minimum 2 weeks and preferably a month except that some may want to stay indefinitely.Some housing may be in wall tents in remote locations packed in by horse. Some may be setups on ranches where ancillary water and electric can be run to temporary lodging. Some may be in trailer parks.

It can be anticipated that the State sponsored fund drive will reassure donors. Already Gov. Brewer has taken in over a million and a half dollars. The Pinal County board/AZ Senate gave the sheriff a million. The house approved 2 million. Our network partners number possibly 600,000 so $ 10 each would net another $6 million. And I'm speculating that once Arizona's announces the invitation of volunteers Americans will flood the state with another $1 to $2 million.

All things considered, returning veterans, unemployed, volunteers would line up around the block to come.

But this is in the pipe line. It has NOT happened - yet ! We should make it happen.

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Fox News -- July 5
Arizona Gearing Up to Raise Cash for Border Fence
Arizona officials are gearing up for a July 20 launch of a website to accept donations to pay for construction of additional fencing along the state's portion of the U.S.- Mexico border.
Under legislation approved in April, the state would use donated money and inmate labor to build additional fencing along parts of the border, likely on state or privately owned property.
With illegal immigration and other border-related concerns still prominent in the state, Republican lawmakers who supported the fence legislation see the fundraising project simply as a way to pay for helping secure the border.
"It's because the federal government won't do it and because the state doesn't have the money to do it," said state Sen. Steve Smith, a Maricopa Republican lawmaker who sponsored the fence bill.
Smith said current plans call for the site to go live at 12:01 a.m. MST on July 20, the date when most laws passed during the Arizona Legislature's 2011 regular session take effect.
A kickoff event will follow that evening in Casa Grande, in Smith's legislative district. Two prominent Republican state officials, Senate President Russell Pearce and Attorney General Tom Horne, plan to participate. [...]
The nearly 2,000-mile (3,200-kilometer) U.S.-Mexico border already has about 650 miles (1,050 kilometers) of fence of one type or another, nearly half of it in Arizona.

[usa today]

I agree with your assessment on all of the above Bill

Gheen is a hard one to figure out though

He does have a large following , but also they have kicked off and ticked off a large amount of followers over the years.

Of course using this movement as a means to his monthly income has always rubbed me wrong and thats why I would never give him a dime.

I knew Simcox rather well , he had great potential , but he flubbed the dub , sad

There was a time when our orgs could have worked together for the mutual benefit of all , but it just could never happen , I spent a ton of time trying to do it but none of them went for it , they all just wanted to protect their little fiefdoms.

I agree that Glenn Spencer is the Iron Man , he was then and still is