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Old 02-11-2010, 08:34 PM
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Well Ted, you brought out the script.

Crappy, white racist Americans, a version of stuff that happened hundreds of years ago for which no one alive today is responsible, education for people whose plans don't generaly extend beyond this evening unless it has to do with a party on the weekend.

And by your definition of "culture", Mexico is the worst offender concerning the requirement to assimilate to a national character, it's the reason "pocho" is a pejorative, and the fact that about ten years in the United States for a Mexican generally precludes gracefully welcome, permanent, cultural return to their home pueblos and cities in Mexico.

Mexican culture is mestizo, to be the Indian in Mexico is to be nothing. The only Indians Mexico has any use for, in spite of all the rhetoric of an "Indianist nation", have either been dead for 500 years or are forced to cultivate pot for the cartels. "Pinche Indio" (I've heard it used in anger) means about the same as "f***ing n***er".

The other half of my household is first generation born in America with Mexican ancestry. I hear more Spanglish in my house than I do in a comparable time in the San Fernando Valley. Old black and white Mexican movies play at my house, and I admire what great musicians and symbols to Mexico Vicente Fernandez and Jose Alfredo Jimenez, present and past, are to Mexico.

I'm curious about Mexicans, their culture and their history. I've made it a point to try to understand them, I talk to everyone I can to understand them more. And, the more I learn, the more questions there are.

I've worked more than once with Mexican nationals who believed I, in my own country, was present to take one of "their" jobs, and tried to run me off. Until they found I had skill which if not present on the job, they wouldn't be working. Mexicans can be just as racist and otherwise prejudicial as anyone else.

I'm in a weird place in my head concerning Mexican nationals, and it depends on whom among them I'm around and what's going on at the moment - all at the same time I love them and I hate them all.

There are different types of Mexicans, as there are different types of their American born near and distant relatives, just as there are different types of white Americans.

I believe present day Mexican nationals are unwitting tools and dupes used by various agendas of the Mexican government, Brown American racists, Republican and Democratic parties, American employers, and various religions seeking to fill the collection plate and expand political power.

I have seen the damage done after the 1981 recession, the subsequent devaluation of the peso by Lopez Portillo, the 1986 amnesty, and unfettered illegal immigration since 1982.

My Elena's father came from a Mexico which treated his family badly and which he hated as a consequence, Elena came to maturity in America before the civil rights act and understands what genuine white racism was all about - "Latino activist" racists who presume to speak for everyone else with a brown skin and Spanish last name and who yell that the white man is "out to get" the Latino are living 60 years in the past. And to top it all off, Elena's son was brainwashed in college - he's a minor "Latino activist" "Mexican" and I am a "European invader".

One thing for sure, race doesn't indicate nationality, language, culture, religion, or political belief, and regardless of how brown racists and the media try to paint "Latinos", they are not all the same people.

It's odd how Brown American racism is spun into and accepted as "cultural pride".

Ted, raised as a Mormon living in a primarily "Mexican" community (without breaking down "who" is "what"): I don't think there's much you can tell me.
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