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Old 06-02-2012, 01:19 PM
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Consider the Florida incident. They were purging voter registration records of as much as 187,000 suspected illegal aliens. So what happens - ? Eric Holder. He steps in and orders a halt to it. On what basis ? Bait and switch, a complete distortion of the laws. And what does he want want? Of course he wants to leave them on the rolls so they can vote. I came to that conclusion yesterday. This morning on Fox news a black lady essentially said the same thing !!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill Clinton ordered a general amnesty back then for 3 million. Billy King, then Director of the Western Division of the INS said they could look out the windows and see the counterfeiters selling documents to the illegal alien people standing in line !

Remember Bob Dornan, California Congressman ? He lost his seat due to the allowance of illegal aliens to vote.

There is lots of basis for lamenting the deplorable situation there in California. It is dirty and corrupt. Of no apparent consolation is the fact that we here on the East Coast have just as many of those @#$%^&*) as you do in California.
Dornan didn't lose because illegals voted. The race was very close, and during the recount it was discovered that non-citizens voted, but even without those he lost by a narrow margin. What gripes me to no end is that those non-citizens were never prosecuted. In addition, even bob's republican party was telling him not to make a big deal out of this, and stop demanding they be charged.

Bill clinton actually legalized about 1 million probable votes for himself just prior to the election.


I don't know what goes on in florida, but I doubt we're getting the truth from anyone yet. The problem as I see it is that people are encouraged every possible way to vote, but there's little education about when you shouldn't, meaning if you are not a US citizen. You get the registration pitch at DMV, at the welfare office, on the streets, in the schools...everywhere. Holder wants to keep the floodgates open without checks and balances. Most states have registrars who follow that line of thinking, and purging any voters, even those who haven't voted in 20 years, and even if it would free up money to spend on improving the system entirely, is just too much of a risk. The risk being that the electorate will find out just how corrupt and wasteful the system is. You know what the consequences are over an electorate that loses faith in the elections process is? revolt becomes more likely.

By the way, this case came up this week also. a petition to force the county registrar to accept a voter registration. The county registrar recently investigated a case where they said a company backed by republicans was changing registrations without people's consent. Yeah...like the democrats haven't done that here also. But this voter made a big deal out of that to toss the issue back in her face:

MAY IT PLEASE THIS HONORABLE COURT: NOW COMES THOMAS L.
TRYBUS, PLAINTIFF, WHO RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THAT HIS (EX PARTE)
PETITION TO COMPEL REGISTRAR TO ACCEPT AND FILE AFFIDAVIT OF
REGISTRATION BY VOTER FOR THE JUNE 5, 2012 PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY
ELECTION AND DECLARATION OF PETITIONER (Elections Code § 2142) AND
HIS APPLICATION FOR EMERGENCY (EX PARTE) ORDERS FOR INJUNCTIVE
RELIEF IN THIS CAUSE BE ACCEPTED AND GRANTED FOR THE FOLLOWING
REASONS:
1. ) THAT THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OWN, BUT RATHER, AS
EVIDENCED BY HIS ATTACHED EXHIBITS NUMBERED 1-.5- ERRORS,
AND ACTIONS OR INACTIONS, DELIBERATE OR NOT ON THEIR PART
BY THE AFOREMENTIONED DEFENDANTS, PLAINTIFF NOW SUFFERS,
AND WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER HEREAFTER, GREAT HARMS
VIOLATIVE OF HIS INHERENT RIGHTS UNDER BOTH THE U.S
CONSTITUTION, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE GREAT STATE OF
CALIPORNIA FROM HIS BEING IMPROPERLY REJECTED AS A
LEGALLY REGISTERED VOTER, AND THEREFORE BEING DENIED
PARTICIPATION IN AN UPCOMING EXTREEMLY IMPORTANT PRIMARY
ELECTION, TO BE HELD ON THE RAPIDLY ADVANCING DATE OF:
JUNE 5, 2012.
2. ) THAT ON MAY 23, 2012 THE PLAINTIFF HAD OCCASION TO VISIT
THE OFFICE OF THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS LOCATED AT 7000 65
STREET SACPJWENTO, CA. 958^ (316) 875-657S>,AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DEFENDANT HEATHER DITTY. THE
CONVERSATION INCLUDED IN PART THE FOLLOWING:
ELECTION SUPERVISOR HEATHER DITTY INFORMED PLAINTIFF AT THAT
TIME THAT "THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN PARTICIPATE LAWFULLY IN THE
(RAPIDLY) UPCOMING PRIMARY ELECTION, WOULD BE TO ADDRESS THIS
DILEMA WITH PETITIONING THE STATE SUPERIOR COURT AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE, AND OBTAIN A COURT ORDER AUTHORIZING YOUR PARTICIPATION."
SHE THEREAFTER PROVIDED PLAINTIFP WITH TWO(2)PRE-PRINTED FORMS WITH
WHICH TO DO SO, A COPY OF HER BUSINESS CARD, AND VERBAL DIRECTIONS
TO THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AS WELL AS THE LOCATION OF THE NEW COUNTY
LAW LIBRARY.
3.) THAT THE OFFICE OF THE DEPARTMEl^ OF MOTOR VEHICLES,
(LOCATION AFOREMENTIONED) AND THE EMPLOYEES WHO SERVICED
PLAINTIFF ON OR ABOUT 04-10-12 WHEN HE APPLIED FOR BOTH A
RENEWAL OF HIS STATE I.D. CARD, AND SIMUTANIOUSLY HIS
VOTERS REGISTRATION- INADVERTANTLY MADE, OR ACTUALLY DID
INTENTIONALLY CREATE ERRORS DURING HIS APPLICATION
PROCESS FOR VOTERS REGISTRATION, WHICH HAVE LED TO GREAT
DAMAGES TO PLAINTIFF, WHICH REVERBERATE BEYOND THEIR OWN
DMV ORBIT INTO OTHER AGENCIES THROUGH THE COMMON PRACTICE
OF "SHARED INFORMATION" BETWEEN MOST LOCAL,STATE,AND
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, AT LEAST UP UNTIL NOW, AND POSSIBLY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO SOMETIME INTO THE FUTURE
IF THEY CONTINUE TO STAND UNCORRECTED BY THIS HONOEIABLE COURT.
FURTHER, THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES, AS WELL AS ALL
OTHER PUBLIC AGENCIES WHICH HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED AS OFFICIAL
VOTER REGISTRATION AGENCIES PURSUANT TO THE NATIONAL VOTER
REGISTRATION ACT OF 1993, HAVE SWORN LEGAL DUTIES AND
OBLIGATIONS TO THE PUBLIC TO WHOM THEY SERVE. INCLUDING, BUT
NOT LIMITED TO, ASSISTING AND PROPERLY INFORMING A PERSON
APPLYING FOR VOTER REGISTRATION OF IMPORTANT REQUIREMENTS,
SUCH AS PROOF OF U.S.CITIZENSHIP, RESIDENCY IN THIS STATE,
AND/OR CLEARANCE TO VOTE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS IF
APPLICABLE. THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES HAS PERHAPS EVEN
FAR GREATER RESPONSIBILITIES, GIVEN THAT THEIR COLLECTIONS OF
DATA RELATED TO VOTER REGISTRATIONS ARE COUPLED WITH THE
INCLUDED DATA OF THEIR ACTUAL FUNCTIONAL DUTIES OF ISSUING
DRIVING PERMITS, LICENSING DRIVERS, REGISTERING VEHICLES,
ISSUING STATE IDENTIFICATION CARDS, AND ASSISTING THOSE WHO
CHOOSE TO BE ORGAN DONORS. IT IS NOT UNREASONABLE TO EXPECT
THAT AN OCCASIONAL ERROR MAY OCCUR IN THEIR OFFICES, BUT IT IS
ALSO NOT UNREASONABLE FOR ANYONE TO SEEK FROM THE DMV THEIR
HELP, NOR DOES IT SEEM IMPROPER OR INCONVENIENT TO SEEK THE
HELP OF THE COURTS, IN CORRECTING ANY ERRORS THAT HAVE DAMAGED
THE INDIVIDUAL APPLICANT, WHICH IS IN THIS CASE THE PLAINTIFF 4. ) THAT AS EVIDENCED BY PLAINTIFF'S ATTACHED EXHIBIT #3 OF A
RECENT SACRAMENTO BEE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE DATED SUNDAY, MAY
13, 2012, THE DEFENDANT JILL LA VINE, AND OTHERS FROM HER
OFFICE, PIAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A VERY LARGE INVESTIGATION
OF ALLEGED VOTER FRAUD CASES WHICH ACCORDING TO "THE BEE"
HAD FOCUSED PRIMARILLY ON, OR TARGETED NEWLY REGISTERED
REPUBLICAN VOTERS, AND APPARENTLY NO OTHERS- AN EXTENSIVE
INVESTIGATION WHICH APPEARS TO BE ONGOING WITH SOME LINK
OR ASSOCIATION TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE.
PLAINTIFF HAS WHAT HE FEELS IS SOUND REASONABLE BELIEF,
THAT SOMEHOW HE WAS AFFECTED BY, TARGETED, OR ACTUALLY
INCLUDED ERRONEOUSLY IN HER PRESENT AND ONGOING, HASTELY
AND OVERZEALOUS COUNTYWIDE REPUBLICAN "WITCH HUNT", FOR
ANYONE WHOM SHE BELIEVES MAY BE AN OFFENDING VOTER,
APARENTLY GLARING WITH A JAUNDICED EYE, ONLY AT ANY NEWLY
REGISTERED REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
5. ) THAT LONG ESTABLISHED COUNTY AND STATE RECORDS WILL
CLEARLY SHOW, THAT THE PLAINTIFF HAS ACTUALLY BEEN FOR AT
LEAST DURING A TIMESPAN OF THE LAST THREE (3) MAJOR
ELECTIONS HELD IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA- A BORN LEGAL
U.S. CITIZEN, A LEGAL CALIFORNIA RESIDENT AND A LEGALLY REGISTERED REPUBLICAN VOTER. THE ONLY EXCEPTION
TO THESE FACTS HAS BEEN A RECENT (UNDER A FULL YEARS TIME)
PERIOD OF NECESSARY RESIDENCY IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, FOR
IMPORTANT FAMILY MATTERS, AND MEDICAL CARE. DURING WHICH, AT
ALL TIMES HE HAD LOCATED/RELOCATED TO AND FROM
ARIZONA/CALIFORNIA, HE HAD PROPERLY CHANGED HIS ADDRESSES WITH
THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE, AS WELL AS BOTH THE OFFICES OF THE
ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA DMV, AND BOTH THE OFICES OF THE ARIZONA
VOTER'S REGISTRATION, AND THE CALIFORNIA VOTER'S REGISTRATION

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