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Originally Posted by Rim05
I was completly surprised when I saw that on the news. I will have to give credit to the NSM for trying to ignore that little gnat Naui. I wish he would get another nose full of spray again. If Everyone would never answer him maybe it would deflate him a bit. I thought I saw Cliff May but not sure.
The brown Beret that was arrested was shouting "This is my town". Seems every one wants to own the US.
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I saw Naui's first set (of 8 video clips) from the first Riverside confrontation and was actually glad that he actually found REAL RACIST to go up against. He really seemed to be orgasmically in his element that day. Upon viewing those first clips, my first thoughts were "agent provacatuers". The Nazi kids were too silent, didn't have any real talking points regarding illegal immigration, the clothes and flags seemed too new for a seasoned group and they largely ignored the illegal alien workers. Then I read on some site that this was their first protest. I see at the Oct. 24th event they were more prepared with more people (and more silly uniforms). Talk about racist versus racist!
As distasteful as I find the ideas of racial superiority and separatism, I believe in the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution. And as we learned in Leimert Park and almost in Hollywood at the AA3 protest, the protection of those rights are worth fighting for.
That being said, I'm hoping that we're all in agreement that regardless of the thoughts expressed here, there can be no association with any such groups at SOS events. We need a clear cut procedure on what to do if these groups show up at our events and it must be made clear to them that their mission and vision does damage to our work simply by association. And like as in the Liliana protest in Simi Valley when the Golden State Skinheads showed up, their protest must be visibly separate from our group.
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Originally Posted by Eagle1
The NSM, Stormfront and some of the other Nazi groups are of interest to me in that they are successful in recruiting young men and women....far more successfully than us or the Minutemen groups.
The question here is why?
Is it because of a racial identity crisis brought about by the Feds social engineering programs? Is it concievable that as the majority racial group they have come to the conclusion that they have been put on the governments sacrificial alter for its own purposes and are reacting out of an instinctive survival mechanism?
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Ummmmm, perhaps..... Or I wonder if it's simply of matter of the fact that we (meaning various groups in the illegal immigration movement) cannot seem to form a cohesive work team surrounding this single issue for too long before someone has to "be in charge" or become famous or want to do their "own thing" in contradiction to the groups core mission and goals? We'd be fooling ourselves if we think the reconquista/racist/raza crowd does not have disagreement, but when they take it to the streets, the mission is clear and cohesive- to paint the anti illegal immigration groups as racist and bigots and sell outs who're just out to separate "immigrant" families. The old SOS could not even form the Youth Brigade without it becoming a huge fight. I'm trusting that we are all still here because we believe in the merits of our fight and I'm hoping that we can work together and realize that we do not eat our own.
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Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola
I think we have to show them that ours is the right and just path through our deeds and gains. In other words, mere mortal acts will prove inneffective. Our strengths will be our racial mixing, and the deeds and performance by those of the racial backgrounds that those racialists have either come to have disdain for, or may have been born to it. We can use this thread to promote those such people:
http://www.saveourstate.info/forumdisplay.php?f=38 |
Yes, we will have to lead and teach by our example that we have and will continue to successfully work together and that we can maturely address our conflicts.