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Old 09-13-2011, 08:09 PM
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Susan Martinez is probably Governor because she has Mexican ancestry. Bill Richardson, her predecessor, was also "Mexican". BUT - she is a Republican and he is a Democrat !!!!!!!

They get elected because the population of Latinos/Hispanics is increasing. And because the illegals vote also. New Mexico is presently investigating 40,000 cases of voter fraud.

Lupe Moreno's father was a Mexican human trafficker. As a young teen ager she was involved up to her eyebrows. And now she is a vociferous activist dead set against illegal immigration.

So it all depends. Man *( and woman ) is a product of heredity and environment. There are lots of Latino/Hispanic Republicans. Marco Rubio is a good example. As is the group " You Don't Speak For Me".

When the bad Latinos out number the good Latinos you get Antonio Villaraigosa.

The predictions are that in the next 4 - 5 decade the minorities will become the majorities ! All the more reason to control immigration.

Here's a question for you. Why has there never been a Native American President or Governor? After all they were the FIRST Americans and Mexicans are intruder foreigners ? The Liberals make a big hullabaloo about the first black President but blacks came AFTER Native Americans.

There are probably hundreds of pages of commentary on this post - your post is thoughtful and thank you. However, to more than briefly comment on it would be getting into quite a bit of history, and I'm tired plus I have "dipped into the medicine".

I don't know why Martinez became governor of Mexico, but attempting to deny driver's licenses to illegals suggests that it is not by sucking up to the pro illegal crowd. On the other hand, there are people who are descended from the Spaniards whose families have been in the Rio Grande Valley vicinity since the 1600's, and they aren't "Mexican" - some speak a Spanish dialect which far predates Mexican incursion. Lots of Indians and people with Northern European ancestry as well.

Bill Richardson is the son of a white American diplomat and a Mexican mother, I don't know her race, but Bill's features suggests brown. I speculate that she was from a monied, influential family. If I recall right, Bill spent some of his youth in Mexico City, and his time of coming of age was in the 1950's - the same as the old school Chicanos. I know people who went through that time of living on the other side of the tracks, one who lives in my house as well, it wasn't the same as now. Martinez' experience is a generation more recent, I believe her not to have the same experiences either socially or politically as Richardson.

Marco Rubio has Cuban Ancestry, he doesn't have a lot in common with Mexicans or American brown pride activists.

"Good Latino", "Bad Latino", just what the hell is a "Latino"? The word is so broad as to be meaningless. I will grant you there are racists and people who aren't so prejudiced in all races and in all nationalities. Villaraigosa is a racist as is Tom Metzger, and both get their following by exploiting ignorance.

I believe who cares who is a minority or not, we need to become "us".

Why hasn't an Indian become governor or the President?

Prior to 1965, the answer is very clear and needs no words in my mind.

Subsequently, Casino reservation Indians are too busy pretending to be sovereign while buying off white politicians at the capitol as well as "preserving a culture" that is long gone and most haven't experienced. The poor reservation Indians are too busy drinking themselves to death while generally refusing to join the modern world - and the majority of the old culture is gone for them as well.

An example from Mexico:

Mexican President - Hero Benito Juarez was born a Zapotec Indian shepherd who didn't speak Spanish in his youth. He was educated by the grace of a priest, and became an iron Mexican politician precisely because he ceased being Indian.

Obama is mixed race, and due to his life experiences I don't believe he is in a position to relate with most blacks in America. The left can make a big deal all they want, but the real question is, can he do his job in a competent manner which benefits all citizens of the United States? That is the qualifying matter in my mind.

On the other hand, a saggin', dreadlocked black man who speaks in ebonics and has a chip on his shoulder isn't going to become President. Does this have to do with not "giving up one's blackness", whatever that is?

If you want to know about brown racist incursion into politics, study the long defunct Texas political party La Raza Unida and founder Jose Angel Gutierrez. It's the same formula then as now concerning brown racist takeover of government, public services and education. Those people may have had Mexican parents or Mexican ancestors, but they were Americans doing political (and otherwise) things Mexicans would never have dreamed of doing. REAL Mexicans tend not to go along with "Chicano" bullshit, simply because most reject the Americanism of those pushing it - "Aztlan" has to be repackaged for Mexicans for they are a different audience than their Americanized children. Sucking up freebies is another matter - Mexicans tend to be "equal opportunity" in that matter.
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