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Old 03-18-2011, 09:38 AM
PochoPatriot PochoPatriot is offline
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Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola View Post
You know what Pocho?

I have done my utmost to hold my tongue when people charge others with dereliction of duty within this movement. I have done so because I generally don't like to do anything at all that would discourage people from staying with the movement and from frequenting this organization. But I am going to violate my own rule now because I believe my silence is doing more harm than good in this case.
You ask where are the protests? My answer is that you have no interest in organizing one. The tools are, and always have been available for you here. There is no noted lack of Southern California border security leaders; there is however, lack of support for them.
Robin and Ray of California's Crusaders are always holding events down there. SOS has had a few. Walter Moore, Althea Shaw, and a few others are still organizing and moving forward. This movement is not done. And I presume to challenge your credentials as one to officiate over vital statistics of that caliber. Better yet, why don't you attend one of Robin and Ray's next events and try to issue a formal death certificate while your there and see what their reaction is. I don't quite know whether such a hard fighting unit like theirs will flail you, denounce you, or try and convert you, but I doubt they will agree with you. Now I may be a stubborn, aging, idealistic romantic fool, but my fight lives on because I want it too. And the movement is not dead until I am dead, or no one is fighting back.
Now I cherish everyone's contribution to the effort, including yours; but you are becoming a prophet of defeat, and I beg you to stop.
AG, you are barking up the wrong tree on this one. I have both organized and attended numerous protests. Sadly, my current situation does not allow me to attend a protest that I would organize. In my mind it is not appropriate to organize a protest or rally and then not show.

As far a Robin and Ray go, they do a fine job in a different region of southern California. Los Angeles is a different animal and removed from the Inland Empire.

As an aside, I have read too many posts on other boards from people that wouldn't venture into LA to make their voices heard.

Walter Moore has imbibed the Nightin-ghoul kool-aid once too often for my tastes, and though he was front and center in supporting Arizona and AB1070 he is very silent in this issue.

As far as Althea Shaw goes, I haven't heard anything from her. I pray that I am wrong.

Even a man that I give the utmost respect, Ted Hayes, hasn't spoken out on this issue.

As far a "questioning my credentials" goes, you are welcome to do that. I have no pride at stake. I have no reputation to defend. I could careless about who gets the glory or the blame. I simply call them as I see them, and if that sort of brutal honesty upsets you, then so be it. I refuse to live in a fantasyland be it of yours or any other person's creation.
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