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Old 03-28-2011, 07:02 AM
Cole Younger Cole Younger is offline
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Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola View Post
Ahhh.....yes and no.

In a perfect world we'd like everyone on our side to be calm, cool, articulate, intelligent, reserved and probably even a little forgiving. But we live in the real world, and we have schwilk. It is my personal opinion that we are not going to sway the government on this immigration scheme by gentle persuasion, pleading, or even elections. They not going to move in our favor until they are faced with interruption of their daily routines, powerful backlash during 50% of their meetings, and revolt at the tax office. I don't know how old you are, but if I may summon up the memory of the 60's and 70's Vietnam war protests. They were happening on street corners, at concerts, state houses, and SCHOOLS for christs sakes. Even all that was slow to spur the change, but it was compelling. Calmly reasoning with a little chuckee-esque troll like Naui as he buzzes your head threateningly is not going to impress the government. They'd look at a video of that and say, "look! They're starting to get along!"
in contrast, I say we need groups of bold citizens standing on those streetcorners and day labor centers who are fed up and not going to take sh!t from foreign invaders or corrupt government actors. So no; I'm not going to tell the schwilks to stay home. He's still on his feet at least, while the calm, supposedly intellectual Joe Turner is where? MIA...
Davi, Vietnam was different and I was around (albeit young) during that period. Vietnam affected everyone at the time on a personal level. The unloading of body bags from aircraft was on every major news network. The draft was in affect. People knew people that were killed or wounded. POW's were making news stories as well. It was the media that influenced public opinion to a point where young college kids felt the need to do something thus the peace movement and the protests were born. This is not the case with illegal immigration.

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In a perfect world we'd like everyone on our side to be calm, cool, articulate, intelligent, reserved and probably even a little forgiving.
I agree this is not a perfect world but regardless of imperfections, a leader has to stay calm, intelligent, and reserved. That is leadership 101. A leader cannot panic under fire or things will quickly become unraveled.

Naui tactics are so incredibly obvious, only a fool would fall for them.

Davi, you lead by example. If a leader loses there composure or demonstrate incompetence under pressure, how do you expect your followers to act? Piss poor leadership and wrong decision making gets people hurt. Does the leadership of this movement want martyr's?

Every individual, including leadership, should be well versed and have talking points at these rallies and those talking points should be rehearsed. If you stay on message, you will be affective...but this takes real leadership something this movement is sorely missing. I for one will not follow a fool.

Last edited by Cole Younger; 03-28-2011 at 07:07 AM.
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