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Old 09-11-2010, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com View Post
That's sort of accurate.

The reproductive strategy of people in agricultural or blighted/impoverished areas is to crank kids out in volume (labor assistance and improved chances that some will survive difficult conditions).

The reproductive strategy of people in developed capitalist societies (i.e. just about any place you'd actually want to live) is few or no children (less expense, low child mortality rates), which is essentially why we are seeing this immigration dilemma across the globe. It's a byproduct of successful capitalism I'm not sure anyone anticipated. If you have an education and live in a city or suburban area, it is a more rational decision to reproduce later in life and to have fewer offspring. It's more cost effective.

The problem with this, and this is happening in every advanced society (Japan, UK, Australia, France, U.S. ... even So. Korea now) is that the people you want to have children (can afford kids and enjoy middle-class or better existences) aren't producing at replacement levels or better. That's why the impoverished are flooding into advanced nations around the globe to fill the vacuum.

The Europeans have been getting the Sheets and the U.S. has been getting Mexicans and Central Americans.
That's not true, and it is a commonly held myth that industrial societies are not sustaining their populations. You completely ignore the labor demands of industrial societies. But the labor demands of industrial societies is decresing as technology increases. Robots have largely replace human labor in just about every level of productivity and in just about every economic sector.

And also, the middle class used to take up a lot of labor in the workplace that is also now being done by computers.

The only reason that people are floodiing industrialized countries is because of Catholic and Muslim license to do so. The countries where these beliefs dominate are incapable of sustaining their own population, both ideologically and economically and they must export their surplus populations. It is a perfect strategy for them to export them to countries where peoples have been able to live free and protect themselves from the influence of these beliefs. They prop them up there and the natural resistance to the degenerative influence of these belief systems create foment and corrode the productivity of the host countries.

We don't need these people here. We don't need people who reproduce over one child per family. The truth is, we never did. The whole notion that agricultural families have to be large to sustain themselves is a myth. Large agricultural families have only ever served empires and emperial belief systems. Their children were born to be serfs with the bulk of their productivity going somewhere else.
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