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Old 09-24-2011, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Patriotic Army Mom View Post
I would have booed also! I like the man, but not that message!
PAM, I would suggest to you that that message reflects on the man and his character. It's not just that he voices support for in-state tuition for illegal aliens, it's that he is lying about it.

His explanation about that policy, that he gave at the debate in Tampa, included two references that Texas made a decision that it doesn't matter what a kid's "last name sounds" like if he wants to go to college. That is just a flat-out misrepresentation. Hispanics are not, and were not before Perry instituted the in-state tuition for illegals policy in 2001, prevented from going to Texas state colleges. People with ethnic last names were neither barred from school nor charged more to attend. The test for in-state tuition before 2001 was legal residency, not ethnicity or race.

Perry pulled the race card when he suggested ethnicity was a legal impediment to going to a university in his state.

Further, both in Tampa and Orlando, Perry stated that providing the taxpayer subsidized tuition rate was the right move because A) it would allow these kids to become productive members of society, and B) keep them off "the dole" in Texas.

PAM, when those kids graduate they can't work, as a matter of law. There will be no IBM jobs, no positions with Apple Computers, Hess Oil, law firms or accounting agencies. The only way that could occur would be for the kids to commit substantial fraud (I.D. theft, forgery, etc.). Further, illegal aliens cannot receive welfare ("the dole") in Texas w/o, again, committing considerable fraud.

Perry is lying.

He is also lying when he says that they don't get the in-state tuition rate unless they are "working toward citizenship" or "on their way toward citizenship." That is substantively false, as well. It's a matter of law. A person who enters the U.S. illegally cannot regularize his residency w/o going home and applying to enter lawfully (and waiting) like everyone else. It doesn't matter if marriage to a U.S. citizen occurs, or anything else. It's not legally possible under current immigration regulations/standards. These kids are not "on their way" toward citizenship. They are simply signing a piece of paper that says they will obtain legal residency when they can. AB540 in California has students sign a similar document. It's bullsh--. That can't happen (w/o an amnesty), as a matter of law.

Every time this guy talks about immigration, PAM, he is misleading and misrepresenting. Every time. He is John McCain with better hair. I would suggest to you he's not worthy of your liking him b/c he keeps trying to decieve you and other people in the audience when he tries to justify the in-state tuition situation in the Lone Star State. It's not that he supports it, it's that he so dishonest in his efforts to explain it.
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