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Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola
I do care what Obama is influenced by. He's the president, the commander in chief, the appointer of supreme court justices, the signer of treaties, and the chief executive officer of all departments of state. I'd love to influence him. Whether that be a lawsuit, a revolt, blackmail, or whatever else I thought I could get away with
You're asking the wrong guy about chelena's stance on the issues. I've come to know her as a lying, dishonest, manipulative, megalomaniac. I don't take what people like that say to heart anymore. If they lie to me, or about me, or about people I know, why wouldn't they lie to thier constituents to get elected?
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I know what you mean. There are some real scum out there in elected-land. I know. But the easier it is to point out the public part of their behavior, the easier it is to sell their poor character to the rest of us. Otherwise, why should we trust you any more than we should trust them?
I don't know the cases you are talking about. The only thing I or anyone else sees is other posters talking the same way and no instances spoken of there either. Even at the personal level, it seems that the rest of us aren't required to have a clue, we are just susposed to take cues from the rest of you who have more direct experience.
Chelene -- notice the easy use of the first name -- is the only California candidate, as far as I know supporting 1070. But the only thing you have to show skepticism for that support is personal experience and no instances to report. How many people tuning in here don't know you any more than they know Chelene?