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Ayatollahgondola 11-28-2011 05:26 PM

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Police initially described the 140-pound, unidentified Hispanic woman as a "competitive shopper" who may have bought the Microsoft Xbox before fleeing the store.
I see it now.
I don't see what this law enforcement agency is waiting for. She obviously used it for a competitive edge.

wetibbe 11-29-2011 02:55 AM

Mass killings
 
Advocating the shooting of civilians en masse ?

Adolph Hitler tried that. Gas chambers !

Joseph Stalin did it, in the millions.

Chinese did it.

The My Lai Massacre (Vietnamese: thảm sát Mỹ Lai [tʰɐ̃ːm ʂɐ̌ːt mǐˀ lɐːj], [mǐˀlɐːj] ( listen); English pronunciation: /ˌmiːˈlaɪ/, also /ˌmiːˈleɪ, ˌmaɪˈlaɪ/)[1] was the Vietnam War mass murder of 347–504 unarmed civilians in South Vietnam on March 16, 1968, by United States Army soldiers of "Charlie" Company of 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade of the Americal Division. Most of the victims were women, children (including babies), and elderly people. Many were raped, beaten, and tortured, and some of the bodies were later found to be mutilated.[2] While 26 US soldiers were initially charged with criminal offenses for their actions at Mỹ Lai, only Second Lieutenant William Calley, a platoon leader in Charlie Company, was convicted. Found guilty of killing 22 villagers, he was originally given a life sentence, but only served three and a half years under house arrest.

Overview

Determining how many people died in these massacres overall is difficult. In the book The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee, amateur historian William M. Osborn sought to tally every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 7,193 people died from atrocities perpetrated by whites, and 9,156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans. Osborn defines an atrocity as the murder, torture, or mutilation of civilians, the wounded, and prisoners. Different definitions would obviously produce different totals.[1]

List of massacres

This is a listing of some of the events reported then or referred to now as "Indian massacres":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre

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Well, that's one way of securing the border. But it takes two to Tango so we may just as well start a second Civil War and really clean house. Get rig of all the supporters, aiders, abettors and drug purchasers. *( And lock up all political opposition ).

Of course there won't be much left of the country but the buzzards should florish !

Ayatollahgondola 11-29-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wetibbe (Post 18788)
Advocating the shooting of civilians en masse ?

Adolph Hitler tried that. Gas chambers !

Joseph Stalin did it, in the millions.

Chinese did it.

The My Lai Massacre (Vietnamese: thảm sát Mỹ Lai [tʰɐ̃ːm ʂɐ̌ːt mǐˀ lɐːj], [mǐˀlɐːj] ( listen); English pronunciation: /ˌmiːˈlaɪ/, also /ˌmiːˈleɪ, ˌmaɪˈlaɪ/)[1] was the Vietnam War mass murder of 347–504 unarmed civilians in South Vietnam on March 16, 1968, by United States Army soldiers of "Charlie" Company of 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade of the Americal Division. Most of the victims were women, children (including babies), and elderly people. Many were raped, beaten, and tortured, and some of the bodies were later found to be mutilated.[2] While 26 US soldiers were initially charged with criminal offenses for their actions at Mỹ Lai, only Second Lieutenant William Calley, a platoon leader in Charlie Company, was convicted. Found guilty of killing 22 villagers, he was originally given a life sentence, but only served three and a half years under house arrest.

Overview

Determining how many people died in these massacres overall is difficult. In the book The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee, amateur historian William M. Osborn sought to tally every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 7,193 people died from atrocities perpetrated by whites, and 9,156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans. Osborn defines an atrocity as the murder, torture, or mutilation of civilians, the wounded, and prisoners. Different definitions would obviously produce different totals.[1]

List of massacres

This is a listing of some of the events reported then or referred to now as "Indian massacres":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well, that's one way of securing the border. But it takes two to Tango so we may just as well start a second Civil War and really clean house. Get rig of all the supporters, aiders, abettors and drug purchasers. *( And lock up all political opposition ).

Of course there won't be much left of the country but the buzzards should florish !

The way I interpreted Don's post was that he made comparison and reference to that which the US was doing in wars past and present, and that we should direct the same effort towards the invading mexicans. So if we were doing it in afghanistan, or had done it in Germany or Japan, and you think that is/was not massacre, then it should not be for those invading our southern flank. That's what I read into his post, however he can defend it himself..or herself....

Ayatollahgondola 11-29-2011 07:31 AM

I should also point out that the government's of the world often associate massacres with only a single or few perpetrators so as to shed any liability that might indict the whole. the gas chambers are all Hitler's fault, as was Lt. calley, pol pot, Stalin, etc. But one person could not have carried out such atrocities without the willing hands of accomplices, even those acting under orders. Yet, our government, along with many others, still convict soldiers for not following unconscienable orders, because...well...orders are orders. So we have a fundemental problem. No described procedure for ascertaining when the unconscienable should be reached


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