Debatable:
 

Naturally there are pros and cons, proponents and opponents to gun control.

I have seen arguments here that are so specious and absent of any logic that they are laughable. But to each his own.

Putting armed guards in schools is no different than putting police on the streets. The British put Bobbie's on the street unarmed which is just absurd.

Among my guns there is NOT any auto or semi automatic rifle. I'm an old fashioned hunter that uses only classic and conventional long guns. That included muzzle loaders. However, I fully support my fellow arms owners who want to own the rapid fire, clip, semi autos. We cannot give an inch to gun control. Not even a fraction. England Australia and Canada gave in and rolled over much to the catastrophic astonishment of decent, law abiding gun owners.

Apart from my having total disdain for Democrats and liberals, I am now also thoroughly disgusted with many in Congress - House and Senate. Forget about the Looney tune Mayors !!!!!

As La Pierre points out guns are tools. They are inanimate. They don't do anything until someone makes them do it. So the gun controllers have mis-identified the culprit. It is the nutty lunatics not the GUNS !!!!!

Take away guns and they will use knifes. Take away knifes and they will use grenades. Take away grenades and they will use bombs. Take away bombs and they will use clubs. Timothy McVeigh used ANFO in Oklahoma. Fertilizer and diesel fuel. He did a much better job. Got lots more people. Take away guns and we will have them loading cars with explosives and suicide bombing like Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more of that.

The anti gun controllers are dim wits. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. This present hue and cry is predominantly an excuse to further their agenda.

I totally agree that it is highly desirable for home owners to be heavily armed with automatic weapons particularly in view of the worst, most dangerous and untrustworthy Government in the Nations history. All the more in view of the super abundance of Communists and racists occupying s many positions. When Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez put their stamp of approval on it you had better wake up and smell the coffee.

BTY it is the law in Switzerland that every able bodied man MUST have arms in his home.

Here in the USA I would advocate that all legitimate state Militias must be armed with automatic/semi automatic rifles.

It has been noted that the perpetrator of the shootings at Sandy Hook elementary was well above average intelligence, and quite mechanically adept. He could have easily devised several bombs and orchestrated their detonation to achieve an even far worse amount of killing and mayhem. He may have chosen to use his mother's guns for a much different reason: To get back at her using the tools she cherished for her own freedom and safety. Who knows? All that time she was teaching him to use them, he may have been in full resentment

Don't judge the mother.

Not all these symptoms may be present concerning those with Asbergers syndrome, but there is a common thread and variation of severity. Some may find a niche and become producers in their own way and many are quite intelligent - there is a notion that Einstein exhibited symptoms of Asbergers, as well as others who have contributed greatly to science and other aspects of society.

Some can learn social clues and become liked, but will always be "different". Some will never experience sex, others will experience monogamy or promiscuity. There can quite a bit of anger stuffed inside in some due to societal or familial rejection. They can be very loving to those they are close to, others will boil and churn concerning childhood or continuing experiences.

The larger question is not about guns or mental illness or mental conditions, as we have always had those among us. What has happened to our society which has given permission to both sane and mentally ill people to mass murder complete strangers? How do we socially revoke this condition?

here was another elementary school shooting in 1988 in the State of Illinois where a lone gunman, or gunwoman, Laurie Wesserman, entered Hubbard Woods Elementary School with a .357 magnum, 32 S& W and .22 LR Baretta and shot five children. One died and 4 survived.

That's a death rate of 20% and a survival rate of 80%, the exact opposite of Sandy Hook. This involved shooting children inside a building.

It should also be noted that the Illinois children in class rooms are reported to have scattered and tried to run away rather than meekly submit to being shot and killed as reported about Sandy Hook.

My basis position is that the death rate at Sandy Hook is statistically out of the norm with all other mass shootings, even mass shootings of school children who's movements were confined by being inside class rooms, as in Hubbard Woods elementary school where 80% of the victims survived.

The historically and statistically unprecedented death rate at Sandy Hook strongly suggests more than one shooter was involved. This is a morbid subject to have to research and deal with, but it has extraordinary political consequences and we cannot allow ourselves to be blinded and our ability to ask questions to be cut off because of emotion and sentimentality.

The young man spent a lot of time at the range. Anyone can blaze away semi auto and hit nothing.

There are people who actually can shoot through a coin tossed in the air and hit several clay targets released at the same time which are traveling different directions, no misses.

It seems there is yet another conspiracy theory begging to be hit on, and this is the one.

Chemtrails, anyone?

Our government hasn't told the truth about anything since the Spanish American War and the calcified, inflexible thinking reflected in your post does little to challenge the ability of the ruling class to control the narrative and herd people, like sheep, in to supporting their own enslavement and dispossession as well as pointless wars.

Responding to the Bengazi incident members of the US government, including the President, fabricated a completely false story about a Youtube video being the precipitating factor. We quickly learned that was a lie. It was also the product of a conspiracy. The 9/11 attack was the product of a conspiracy, as was the Columbine school shooting.

The mainstream media in the US is a branch of the Democratic party and it lies incessantly to further the agenda of the left, whether it's the dispossession of Americans by 3d world primitives or the restriction of constitutional rights.

Yes, there is a conspiracy Don. But you dilute and belittle the attempt to expose it by over-reaching into un-proven, far-fetched theories that detract from the real truths, and divert the attention of those who might otherwise take an interest in it. Wolf-crying is not helping. Not that there may not be wolves, but calling for help when you have only theorized their existence is going to get you, and possibly any real sightings, dismissed as crackpot.

By the way; Is my wife considered one of the "third-world primatives", being a Chommorro from the island of Guam? Just curious, since there is no real definition. :confused:

Of course our government lies to us, much more since Obama became president.

And, yes, so called "journalism" is now a grab bag of politically slanted opinion, propaganda and sensationalism. They lie too, both for the far right and the far left although mostly for the left.

Benghazi was on foreign soil with a presidential election in the balance. Obama and his lackeys won by stalling, lying, denying and changing the subject with most of the press refusing to address it.

Sandy Hook was on US soil within a mainstream community. Were each and every one of the witnesses to the slaughter of children as well as all the media coached, choreographed and coerced into fabricated stories by the CIA, FBI, Secret Service, NSA, ATF, and the local police in order to further some Obama agenda? Such a premise is bullshit, plain and simple.

The wars had a point indeed, but the point got lost with the wars being run as though it were by a corporation competing on the cheap with King George as CEO rather than war understood to be a nasty undertaking to be quickly won by generals let off the leash.

911 was a foreign conspiracy hatched and carried out by religious lunatics.

Columbine was a conspiracy between student misfits given permission to do their deed by changes in American society.

The dispossession of Americans is not so much by third worlders as it is by elected denizens of Washington DC and American businesses down the street from your residence. They and they alone make it possible for your house to be inundated with Nortena music 24/7 from all four sides. (Nortena, Cumbia, grupero and Ranchera music often plays within my house. Does that make myself and Elena - who were both born here - third world primitives? Or does blues, classic rock, funk, 60's black music and Big Band also played take away the "taint"?)

You have to give credit where credit is due. Benghazigate had a political motive for the clumsy cover up, there is no political expediency for the government to murder American children with multiple gunmen and use an Asberger's syndrome sufferer and his mother as patsies. That notion is just as irrational as the deed itself.

A month after the shooting and we still haven't seen any photo's of the actual rifle used. All photos of the "AR15" in the media are generic photos of AR15 type rifles...with different barrel lengths, different sights, different stocks, etc.

At his press conference, the medical examiner said he couldn't determine the caliber of the bullets used, but that all victims were killed by the "long rifle." If he can't determine the caliber of the bullets used, how can he determine the rifle that killed them? He's not an eye witness and didn't see the shootings.

WHERE ARE THE PICS OF THE ACTUAL RIFLE USED. If we can see pic's of the "dead children" we should be allowed to see pics of the "Assuault rifle" supposedly used to shoot them.