Holy Crap! Nazi's March in LA
 

I just caught this off the LA Times site. These guys must have either been really stupid or really brave.



White supremacist rally ends with five arrests and two assaults, police say [Updated]

A white supremacist rally on the lawn of Los Angeles City Hall ended with a handful of arrests Saturday afternoon as counter-protesters showered police and white supremacists with rocks, bottles and other debris.

[Update, 4:50 p.m.: All five people arrested were counter-protesters, police say.]

A rally by 40 members of a group calling itself the National Socialist Movement drew hundreds of counter-protesters from throughout the region. In the hours leading up to the rally, where members called for the removal of all nonwhites from America's southwest, counter-protesters scuffled with people perceived to be sympathizing with the white supremacists' message.

One man, who sported Nazi tattoos, was severely beaten near City Hall while another man, who carried a confusing sign about religion with a scribbled swastika, was pummeled by a mob of people on Spring Street between 1st and 2nd.
The Los Angeles Police Department went on tactical alert during the event and took responsibility for escorting the white supremacists to and from the demonstration site. Earlier in the week the group had obtained a permit for the demonstration.

At the end of the rally, after 2:30 p.m., police escorted the white supremacists to the criminal courts building parking lot to get in their vehicles. However, one car failed to start. A crowd of counter-demonstrators ran to the lot and began hurling rocks and bottles into the parking lot's southwest corner, hitting cars and shattering glass. As some of the white supremacists held shields emblazoned with swastikas over their heads to protect them from the projectiles, others attempted to jump-start the car.

The LAPD then order the crowd to disperse and reopened the streets.

Commander David Doan said the LAPD's goal was to ensure that everyone was allowed to exercise free speech while avoiding any use of force by officers. “There was a tremendous amount of restraint shown by our officers,” he said. “We allowed both sides to exercise their 1st Amendment rights.”

Doan said it was a frustrating situation for LAPD officers. “We took some rocks and bottles when they arrived and we took some again when the car had some trouble starting.”

The two people assaulted in the crowd have been treated for their injuries and released, Doan said. The LAPD is not providing a crowd estimate, but Doan said the department had more than enough officers on hand.

The department issued a tactical alert as a precaution, Doan said, to ensure it had adequate staffing. “I am very happy. Our people did an outstanding job,” the incident commander said.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...olice-say.html

Wow. All that trouble for free speech. Is it worth it?

Yes.

What does this mean?

counter-protesters scuffled with people perceived to be sympathizing with the white supremacists' message.

Bet the counter protesters were attacking anyone white. After all, their perception is everything.

This doesn't smell right to me. The timing is too perfect, just as the bolshevik politburo intends to take up amnesty. Now they have a nice little crisis to help them along. If you're not for amnesty, you're for nazis.

If the foundation of this "protest" is some kind of goverenment instigation, it could blow up in their faces. Playing with criminal aliens is like playing with nitroglycerine.

Did you notice that throwing rocks and bottles was considered "free speech"? Somehow I suspect that if it were the nazis doing the throwing, that speech wouldn't be so free.

I don't trust the whole thing.

Your right on the money Kathy

I think it might be best if we monitored the public perception of this. I'm hoping that the majority doesn't take sides with either one, as that would be the SOS position. Not that we don't support free speech, but that both sides are practicing something we cannot support. I think whatever happens here, the cops at least put their best foot forward, whereas they did not during the Hayes march at leimart park

I don't trust the Nazis, the counter protesters or the police as a general rule and I sympathize with your mistrust of the whole situation.

But free speech is the basis of the gathering and the lack of restraint from the participants is the rational reason for the presence of the police. Is it worth it for the principles of free speech? Yes, a small price to pay even if conspiracy motivated the event.

The best protection for our constitutionally mandated freedoms is to use them on a regular basis, especially when others conspire against them by abusing them.

Activists want the nazi's permit revoked.

http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/main...rticle=7006230

Some community activists and civil rights groups want L.A.'s mayor to revoke a permit allowing white supremacists to rally at city hall.



Community activists and civil rights groups have urged Los Angeles Mayor Villaraigosa to revoke a permit allowing a white supremacist group to hold a weekend demonstration at City Hall.

A police sergeant says none of the city agencies that reviewed the permit request objected, probably because doing so would have violated the group's right to freedom of assembly.

The activists say the mayor should revoke the National Socialist Movement's permit because it's a hate group that tries to incite violence, and freedom of speech should not apply.

Sorry. No cigar here.

I have listened FOR YEARS to mecha, their brown berets and la raza separatist groups and their demands not only be separatist but have the rest of us support them cradle to grave while they party hearty. Unless they want to stop their own spew, they have no credible argument here.

Just as an honorable mention, there WAS NO VIOLENCE until the "activists" started throwing rocks and bottles.

We know all to well about their best foot being put forward.