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Twoller 04-23-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by admin (Post 8260)
You made it about race here:

That's what's at issue; I don't need to read any more tapdancing to distract me from this. So let me be clear too as you do not get it. Are you encouraging that or no?

admin, Don has been posting blatantly aggressive and hostile racist posts against Mexicans on a regular basis and you have to voice any complaints. Not only that, Don seems to show little hostility towards illegal immigration. usa_today's posts are innocent and especially by way of comparison with Don's.

admin 04-23-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Twoller (Post 8268)
admin, Don has been posting blatantly aggressive and hostile racist posts against Mexicans on a regular basis and you have to voice any complaints. Not only that, Don seems to show little hostility towards illegal immigration. usa_today's posts are innocent and especially by way of comparison with Don's.

There's no sliding scale here. We usually deal with matters such as these by contacting the individuals without posting in the forum, however today's events seem to have inspired Don and USA Today be a little more cavalier in respect to this organizations operational rules.
Arizona did a wonderful thing for its' native born and legal citizens, and I don't think they'd want some loose lipped Californians' turning that into something ugly with callous, poorly thought out commentary.

Twoller 04-24-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by admin (Post 8272)
There's no sliding scale here. We usually deal with matters such as these by contacting the individuals without posting in the forum, however today's events seem to have inspired Don and USA Today be a little more cavalier in respect to this organizations operational rules.
Arizona did a wonderful thing for its' native born and legal citizens, and I don't think they'd want some loose lipped Californians' turning that into something ugly with callous, poorly thought out commentary.

The reality is ugly enough that anyone who accurately describes it, as usa_today did above is going to sound ugly. This can be distinguished from openly racist declarations and aggression which usa_today was not doing at the above post.

This step in Arizona looks good. The next level to confront is removing the status of permanent resident aliens and getting rid of anchor babies.

usa today 04-24-2010 11:31 AM

When somebody ACTUALLY addresses the problem it does sound ugly only because that is how the opposition wants it to sound.

Face it , calling attention to what is the problem is not racist , nor has it ever been.

Just to many people are so bogged down in the pc world that they are scared of their own shadows when it comes to the truth of this subject

Don't worry though,
We all know that new Arizona law might last until noon Monday, maybe

I bet there are a hundred lib judges just salivating to put the brakes on this one.

John M. from Mass. 04-24-2010 12:00 PM

Obuma said that he'll push for amnesty for the illegals after he criticized Governor Brewer for signing the bill. However he ought to know that the majority of The American People are still in a fighting mood over the passage of Obumacare and the upcoming Senate vote on Cap and Trade Monday and he'll only add fuel to the fire with amnesty.

Star 04-24-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by usa today (Post 8261)
Hispanic is not , nor have they ever been a race

They are a group of ethnicities

They are considered just as white as anyone else in the "Caucasoid" race

The race card is just a smokescreen

There is no race involved , only a group that has a higher percentage of
lawbreakers then most other groups.

I'm so damn sick of the race card... again, you are 100% correct and many of us are OLD ENUFF to remember when gov't CREATED the hispanic race card... the beginning of the lie, diversity profiling in our schools and businesses!!

usa today 04-24-2010 03:41 PM

Exactly
the admin here is still toeing the PC line , but that is why I've pretty much backed off the movement in the last year,
I've been kicked out of a dozen forums for calling it like it is. but for my lack of action this past year , I've not backed off the root cause and problem one bit.

Nor will I ever

They can cry about being after all illegals but all illegals are not marching in our streets with their home country flag screaming viva la raza. With the exception of one ethnicity , no other is trying to change this country into the garbage dump they left.

admin 04-24-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by usa today (Post 8296)
Exactly
the admin here is still toeing the PC line
If by PC you mean the SOS rules, then yes, I'm towing the line; That's part of the job here
, but that is why I've pretty much backed off the movement in the last year,
I've been kicked out of a dozen forums for calling it like it is.
It's more like calling it as YOU SEE IT, Not Calling it as it is. Not everyone here feels the way you do.
but for my lack of action this past year , I've not backed off the root cause and problem one bit.

Nor will I ever

They can cry about being after all illegals but all illegals are not marching in our streets with their home country flag screaming viva la raza. With the exception of one ethnicity , no other is trying to change this country into the garbage dump they left.

We are what we are here, and I cannot understand why people who feel so differently would torture themselves by continually subjecting themselves to a group that tends to reject their innermost beliefs. We're very tolerant here I believe, but we do have some limits that are sacrosanct. If you are to remain in our midst, you need to learn how to get along with us. The rules are plainly written and they haven't changed. If you don't understand them, then ask for help. We want people to be in compliance, and we're not trying to chase people away.


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