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Borderwatch 03-28-2010 08:16 PM

Fed raids Christian-militia group (Michigan)
 
Federal agents conducted raids over the weekend in Lenawee and Washtenaw counties that news media reports linked to Hutaree, a Christian-militia group in the area.

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Agents also conducted raids in Indiana and Ohio and arrested at least three people. FBI spokesman Scott Wilson in Cleveland said agents arrested two people Saturday after raids in two Ohio towns. A third arrest made in northeast Illinois stemmed from a raid in northwest Indiana. The arrests are part of an ongoing investigation led by the FBI in Michigan, according to a statement from agents in Illinois.

The raids in Michigan took place Saturday and Sunday at undisclosed locations, said Detroit FBI Special Agent Sandra Berchtold.

“We can confirm that there were law enforcement activities in the Lenawee/Washtenaw County area,” Berchtold said.

But she added that “the federal warrants are sealed and we cannot comment at this time.”

An e-mail sent to the Hutaree was not immediately returned Sunday.

The group’s message boards contained messages from people talking about the raids, but none confirmed that the group had been raided.

The group’s Web site says that it is “preparing for the end time battles to keep the testimony of Jesus Christ alive.” The group’s logo is a cross with the initials CCR, which stand for Colonial Christian Republic. In one of its videos, a group of men in military gear take down a burning United Nations flag and replace it with their flag, which displays a cross.

On its Web site, the Michigan Militia denied involvement in the raids.

“Neither MICHIGANMILITIA.COM nor the SMVM (Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia) have been raided by the FBI. We do nothing illegal,” reads a statement on michiganmilitia.com.

Michael Lackomar, a spokesman for the Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia, said one of his team leaders got a frantic phone call Saturday evening from members of Hutaree, who said their property in southwest Michigan was being raided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

“They said they were under attack by the ATF and wanted a place to hide,” Lackomar said. “My team leader said, ‘No thanks.’”

The team leader was cooperating with the FBI on Sunday, Lackomar said. He said SMVM wasn’t affiliated with Hutaree.

Police swarmed a rural, wooded property around 7 p.m. Saturday outside Adrian, about 70 miles southwest of Detroit, said Evelyn Reitz, who lives about a half-mile away. She said several police cars, with lights flashing, were still there Sunday evening and 15 to 20 officers were stationed in the area.

Neighbor Jane Cattell said she came home from the movies Saturday night and a helicopter was circling above, its spotlight illuminating her house. She and her sister, Sarah Holtz, wouldn’t say who lived in the home but said they knew them from riding their horses past their house.

“They’re your average, nice neighbors,” Holtz said.

There were rumors about ties to a militia, but Holtz she knew nothing of that from her interaction with them.

One of the raids in Ohio occurred at Bayshore Estates, a trailer park in Sandusky, a small city on Lake Erie between Toledo and Cleveland, park manager Terry Mills said. Authorities blocked off the street for about an hour Saturday night, he said.

“Needless to say, this has everyone talking,” said Mills, 62. “We have a lot of retirees here who don’t want all this commotion.”

Mills said he didn’t know the identity of the person arrested.

Contact NIRAJ WARIKOO: 313-223-4792 or nwarikoo@freepress.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Borderwatch 03-28-2010 08:17 PM

CAIR Seeks Info on Militia Threats to Muslim Groups
 
CAIR Seeks Info on Militia Threats to Muslim Groups


FBI reportedly raids militia after threats of violence against Islamic organizations

WASHINGTON, March 28 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A prominent national Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization tonight called on federal law enforcement authorities to release more information about possible threats of violence against American Muslims by a militia group raided this weekend in several states.

[NOTE TO MEDIA PROFESSIONALS: Charges are expected to be unsealed in federal court in Detroit on Monday. If the reported threats to Islamic organizations are confirmed, CAIR will hold a news conference on the issue later on Monday in Washington, D.C. CONTACT: CAIR National Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper, 202-744-7726, E-Mail: ihooper@cair.com]

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said at least seven members of a Christian militia group have been arrested in FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force raids and investigations in Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, and Indiana. According to media reports, the "Hutaree" militia was targeted after its members made threats of violence against Islamic organizations.

SEE: Seven Arrested in FBI Raids Linked to Christian Militia Group (Detroit News)

Borderwatch 03-28-2010 08:20 PM

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Dawud Walid, head of the Michigan branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he was told that the Christian militia group may have been plotting against American Muslims.

"We salute the FBI for breaking up a militia that was seeking to harm American Muslims," Walid said.

Walid said he publicly announced the FBI raids at his group's 10th annual banquet today in Dearborn, which featured the Rev. Jesse Jackson as the keynote speaker.

Ayatollahgondola 03-28-2010 09:04 PM

Well, this is going to be an interesting drama,

I wonder who will get the most mileage out of it. CAIR's big mouthed effort is probably going to backfire on them

Borderwatch 03-29-2010 05:30 AM

CAIR Seeks Info on Militia Threats to Muslim Groups
 
The problem for CAIR is that is group supports Israel and, it is hard to tell from the Website, but some members may be Jewish.

Twoller 03-29-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Borderwatch (Post 7399)
The problem for CAIR is that is group supports Israel and, it is hard to tell from the Website, but some members may be Jewish.

That's kind of strange. If the CAIR is pro-Israel and "some members may be Jewish", why would they care if a militia is targeting Muslims?

Borderwatch 03-29-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Twoller (Post 7402)
That's kind of strange. If the CAIR is pro-Israel and "some members may be Jewish", why would they care if a militia is targeting Muslims?


No, no CAIR is the Council on American Islamic Relations

http://www.cair.com/
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The seemed to forgotten the Muslims though and now they say the group was targeting the police.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/us...ia.html?src=mv



WASHINGTON — Nine members of a Michigan-based Christian militia group have been indicted on sedition and weapons charges in connection with an alleged plot to murder law enforcement officers in hopes of setting off an antigovernment uprising.
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From top left, David Brian Stone Sr., 44, of Clayton, Mich,; David Brian Stone Jr. of Adrian, Mich,; Jacob Ward, 33, of Huron, Ohio; Tina Mae Stone; from bottom left, Michael David Meeks, 40, of Manchester, Mich.; Kristopher T. Sickles, 27, of Sandusky, Ohio; Joshua John Clough, 28, of Blissfield, Mich.; and Thomas William Piatek, 46, of Whiting, Ind.
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Police officers guarded a home in Clayton, Mich., on Sunday after a raid.

In court filings unsealed Monday, the Justice Department accused the nine people of planning to kill an unidentified law enforcement officer, then plant improvised explosive devices of a type used by insurgents in Iraq to attack the funeral procession.

Eight of the defendants were arrested over the weekend in raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. A ninth remained at large, the Justice Department said. The indictments against them were returned last Tuesday. The defendants were identified as members of Hutaree, described by federal prosecutors as an anti-government extremist organization based in Lenawee County, Mich., and which advocates violence against local, state and federal law enforcement. The group saw local and state police as “foot soldiers” for the federal government, which it viewed as its enemy, along with participants in what they deemed to be a “New World Order,” according to the indictment.

“This is an example of radical and extremist fringe groups which can be found throughout our society,” Andrew Arena, an F.B.I. special agent in charge in Detroit, said in a statement. “The F.B.I. takes such extremist groups seriously, especially those who would target innocent citizens and the law enforcement officers who protect the citizens of the United States.”

A law enforcement official said that the alleged plot was unconnected to recent threats against Democratic members of Congress who voted for legislation overhauling the nation’s health care system.

A Web site for the Hutaree group talks about a coming battle against the putative forces of the Antichrist but does not appear to focus explicitly on recent political events.

The Web site, which describes the group as “preparing for the end times,” featured video clips of people running through woods in camouflage gear and firing assault rifles, along with links to gun stores and far-right media. It also features an elaborate system of military ranks for its members. The site says it coined the term Hutaree, intended to mean Christian warrior.

“Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment,” the Web site says, adding, “The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield if so God wills it.”

The indictment charged that from August 2008 to the present, the defendants — led by David Brian Stone, 45, who also used the name “Captain Hutaree” — developed a conspiracy that they hoped would result in a war against the United States government. They allegedly decided they would kill a local law enforcement officer, and then bomb the funeral caravan. The killings “would intimidate and demoralize law enforcement diminishing their ranks and rendering them ineffective,” it said.

Afterward, the indictment said, Hutaree members would retreat to several “rally points” and wage war against the government, using prepared fighting positions as well as “trip-wired and command-detonated” bombs.

“It is believed by the Hutaree that this engagement would then serve as a catalyst for a more widespread uprising against the government,” the indictment said.

Mr. Stone used the Internet to obtain diagrams of “explosively formed projectiles,” a particularly lethal form of roadside bombs responsible for many deaths of United States soldiers in Iraq, the indictment said.

It says that he e-mailed diagrams of such devices to a person he believed to be capable of manufacturing them, and then directed one of his sons to obtain the materials to make them. It also says he and his other son taught other Hutaree members how to make bombs in June 2009.

Barbara McQuade, the United States attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, said the government moved to arrest the members of the group this past weekend to short-circuit some operation it had planned to do next month, and which she did not explain in detail.

“Because the Hutaree had planned a covert reconnaissance operation for April which had the potential of placing an unsuspecting member of the public at risk, the safety of the public and of the law enforcement community demanded intervention at this time.”

All nine people face the charges of seditious conspiracy, attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction, and carrying a firearm during a crime of violence. In addition, Mr. Stone and one of his sons, David Brian Stone Jr., has been charged with teaching the use of explosive materials.

Kathy63 03-29-2010 02:06 PM

Does no one else find it odd that the feds can have this kind of multistate operation involving several agencies to bag 7 white Christians. The basis is claimed to be threats made against law enforcement personnel.

YET, there is an out and out war in Hemet against the police with bombs planted on patrol cars and city code enforcement vehickes. The gas line to the police department building was set to explode. Nothing but crickets chirping. Forget that, let's talk about amnesty and how hard these poor folks work.

Border patrol agents come under attack every day. The mexican army has helicopters flying over our cities. Excuse me, ahem, is there something about AMERICANS that you just don't like, maybe they are just Christian Americans rather than chicken dancing aztec mexicans.

This is beyond hypocrisy, this is beyond racisim and bias, this is something I would expect from some foreign power looking to chase the American trouble makers out.

What this is, is the government laying a foundation to arrest anti government dissenters.

Twoller 03-29-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathy63 (Post 7412)
Does no one else find it odd that the feds can have this kind of multistate operation involving several agencies to bag 7 white Christians. The basis is claimed to be threats made against law enforcement personnel.

YET, there is an out and out war in Hemet against the police with bombs planted on patrol cars and city code enforcement vehickes. The gas line to the police department building was set to explode. Nothing but crickets chirping. Forget that, let's talk about amnesty and how hard these poor folks work.

Border patrol agents come under attack every day. The mexican army has helicopters flying over our cities. Excuse me, ahem, is there something about AMERICANS that you just don't like, maybe they are just Christian Americans rather than chicken dancing aztec mexicans.

This is beyond hypocrisy, this is beyond racisim and bias, this is something I would expect from some foreign power looking to chase the American trouble makers out.

What this is, is the government laying a foundation to arrest anti government dissenters.

That's an excellent observation.

But rather than a grand conspiracy, I would rather credit the Feds with dereliction. Dereliction requires less personel, has a much tighter budget and requires far much less oversite from elected officials.

Which isn't to say that dereliction can't be the result of conspiracy. Clearly the affronts to our sovereignty are a conspiracy.

Don 03-29-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathy63 (Post 7412)
Does no one else find it odd that the feds can have this kind of multistate operation involving several agencies to bag 7 white Christians. The basis is claimed to be threats made against law enforcement personnel.

YET, there is an out and out war in Hemet against the police with bombs planted on patrol cars and city code enforcement vehickes. The gas line to the police department building was set to explode. Nothing but crickets chirping. Forget that, let's talk about amnesty and how hard these poor folks work.

Border patrol agents come under attack every day. The mexican army has helicopters flying over our cities. Excuse me, ahem, is there something about AMERICANS that you just don't like, maybe they are just Christian Americans rather than chicken dancing aztec mexicans.

This is beyond hypocrisy, this is beyond racisim and bias, this is something I would expect from some foreign power looking to chase the American trouble makers out.

What this is, is the government laying a foundation to arrest anti government dissenters.

You are spot on. I have no use for people who want to spark a war by committing murders. Charles Manson supposedly had the same idea in 1969. However, isn't in convenient that now the MSM can use the term "Christian Terrorists" even as they have shrunk from calling Muslims "terrorists"?

Remember that the attack on the Branch Dividians in 1993 in Waco was supported initially by allegations of drug trafficking, then it changed to possessing illegal firearms, and finally to child abuse. I did not understand the logic of gassing, burning and machine gunning 80 people because some of them are child abusers, but that's our government's pretext for mass murder.

Oklahoma City came in the aftermath of the GOP takeover of Congress and the decline of the Clinton presidency. Clinton was later quoted as saying that the Oklahoma City bombing saved his presidency. It enabled him to stand up in front of the camera and shed a tear and bite his lip and pretend that he was thinking about something other than the next woman he would have brought to his room by the Secret Service. The Oklahoma City bombing was a public relations triumph for the Liberals.

Same with the JFK assassination in 1963. I'm old enough to remember that event and to remember how that murder transformed a marginal president into a deity. People forget JFK's 1960 win was a very narrow victory and that he was not that popular..until he was shot. After that he became a hero and all of his stalled initiatives, (civil rights, immigration reform, medicare, etc.,) sailed through Congress because of the tragic circumstances of his death.

A "racist" blogger and radio broadcaster named Hal Turner was notorious for his openly, explicitly racist commentary. He's on trial for threatening judges, and it comes out that the FBI has paid this guy more than $100,000 for stirring the pot.

http://rawstory.com/2010/03/fbi-paid...excess-100000/
http://nationalexpositor.com/News/2294.html

This whole "Christian terrorist" thing is perfectly time, planned and orchestrated to occur as Obama is suffering a huge public relations disaster in the face of an ugly hostile mood by the people. Back in the 1960's there was an anti-communist group called the Minutemen, which consisted of people who armed themselves in anticipation of communist invasion or takeover. Years later it was revealed that the entire organization was thoroughly infiltrated by the FBI.

Bottom line: When something like this breaks the surface, it's most probably an FBI cointel project.


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