New Government Forming To Take Over US
 

Pa-ra-noia can des-troy ya......

I recently fielded one of those emails from what I term as "the counter-culture of our movement", and this one originated from a common source associated with them. Jeff Schwilk. A warning again, although many of his communiques resemble that, but this one was at least innovative by his standards.
Seems there's to be a new sheriff in town. Also a new president, senators, congress, etc. We who don't join, may find ourselves out of a country. Normally I'd just chalk this up to Jeff's lonliness, but an article came in in a local paper about the new group he mentioned, and it at least deserves a little recognition, even if only for the sake of disclosureHere's the exchange, and following that, a link to the article:

From: Jeff Schwilk
To: Davi Rodrigues
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Save This Brave Rooster!





Ignore him at your own peril? :)

Wow, these guys want to use religion to promote their ideology like the leftists use the schools to indoctrinate. The left hide behind children and the poor, and these guys hide behind god. They exploit emotions and fear with a mix of religion.

These people are an embarrassment to people who are actually trying to improve what needs improving. How do these people find each other? Are we talking Jerry Springer or Jim Jones on Gandi patrol?

It's becoming a Jerry Springer world!

Not sure BUT !
 

As a non-Californian, and residing on the East Coast, I am not attuned to all of the intricacies, interchanges, personality conflicts that seem to be here. And I don't want to.

Inevitably as a reader I did comprehend some of the political commentary. Further I Googled Jeff Schwelk and it showed some very disturbing come backs.

Here on the East Coast practically all of the Patriot Groups have essentially folded their tents. It is this year just a wimpy whisper of past years. However,our operation operates in a vastly different mode. And it is accelerating.

FYI we essentially engage in civilian intelligence gathering in collaboration with the FBI. ie, Infragard. Here are some of our partners for your information/

http://www.americanpatrol.com/

http://www.stratfor.com/

http://homelandsecurityus.com/

www.christianaction.org/

It should be mentioned that anyone can particpate in Infragard, you do not require any political credentials. Of course, since it is generally required to register with a political party in order to vote, they probably already have your political credentials.

Twoller
 

Not everyone can. You are vetted. If you don't pass muster you are out. A condion is that you do not egage in political diatribe and propaganda.

Some have the disillusion that Infragard is a spy operation on Americans. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm not selling Infragard. To each his own. But I can tell you that I am a very dedicated member that respects the principals and thanks them daily for their dedication and service to our country.

Here is the code of ethics posted by InfraGard:

http://www.infragard.com/membership/..._of_ethics.pdf

I don't see anything about "political diatribe and propaganda". It seems to me that you can engage in as much political diatribe and propaganda as you want as long as you do not represent InfraGard while you are doing it, nor do you engage in political diatribe and propaganda while particpating in some activity advancing the interests of InfraGard.

Engaging in political diatribe and propaganda is the right of every citizen of the United States here in these United States. Unless you have some professional obligations, especially if you are a government employee of some kind, then no such restrictions should apply to you. And InfraGard is nothing like a professional position.

Thanks Twoller:
 

Thanks for posting.

"Political diatribe and propaganda" is/are my words, not Infragard's. Early on I circulated an E-mail with some critical remarks about the President and I soon received an E-mail back from the VP-Secretary of our chapter warning me that that type of language wouldn't be well received, and I would be advised to refrain from such in the future. What I wrote was commonly seen in many newspaper and media articles. I got the message.

He didn't say I couldn't. Just that it wasn't a smart thing to do if I wanted to avoid repercussions from unknown sources who might take offense or consider it slander or defamation.

Otherwise I agree with you.

I found a similar attitude on the DHS website "Our Borders". It's a "social network". The moderators delete posts and jostle posters who post things critical of DHS, CBP or ICE, or reveal embarrassing facts about the "border". They like people who agree with them and say nice, complimentary, innocuous things.

You say you were circulating an email. Who were the recipients of the email? Were any of them InfraGard members?

Reply
 

The E-mail was sent to several "Patriot Groups" in surrounding states that commonly communicate, jointly attend "events/demonstrations", and also send E-mails.

I included the VP-Secretary of Infragard, unwittingly, and he responded to the E-mail I sent to him. I have since dropped him from the list of recipients although I do contact him privately about matters. He's a good guy just trying to be helpful.

My apologies to the Ayatollah, this all way off topic.

If the VP had cautioned you about the content of your email and you had not included any InfraGard members, then InfraGard would most certainly have been spying on you. Otherwise they had no idea that you were not attending to InfraGard business.

You have to sign up in order to see the Rules of Behavior. Since you signed up, maybe you can copy and paste what they were, unless you are sworn to secrecy or something.

No; it's not really off the topic. It actually does highlight just how we fall into smaller groups and such. I don't remember that much about infragaurd, but I'll bet they went the same way as the rest, and so will the one that was the subject of this thread. I tuned in to their radio show, and it started out with a lengthy prayer. I'm not against prayer, but the show was on a wednesday, and I would think most people who tuned in, came to try and find others that want to organize or discuss the government. I wonder just how many people tuned out as soon as the prayer drug on

More conspiracy theory loons. I am so glad to be rid of them.

So essentially, it's a government w/ no authority and only known to people who surf Alex Jones websites.

I give Schwilk points for persistence and creativity. If these folks can keep ducking the chemtrails and avoiding the clutches of the cabal that faked the moon landing and Elvis's death, he may have actually found a venue in which Chelene has a chance of obtaining elected office.

Don't give Jeff any credit here; this was hardly his idea. He's at best a pilotfish in this endeavour. The group, or whatever you want to call it, has a few noble efforts. Acting as our own government was something I solicited for back when chelena sought to ban me from the movement. I pleaded for it in my little video in '09. It's hardly without precedent too, as Kathy pointed out years ago, that the mexicans were basically setting up their own defacto government here in the US. They are issuing their own ID's (matricula), their own birth certificates, and other documents. This group aspires to that as well. Where it falls down is when they both cling to the US constitution as their foundation, but forcibly inject the premise of religion..their religion. There will be no way in hell that they go anywhere in real numbers or statured conscripts with such self limiting goals.

well, it appears that the newly forming Republic is suffering under either corruption, faud, or improper associations. The news is that they have experienced a major theft, but from unamed, but known subjects. People stole their printing equipment that was making the new ID's, and apparently they siezed and are using the accounts that collected the fees as well. The accused have not been named...
Sound familiar yet?

http://www.republicfortheunitedstate...702994RuSA.pdf

And Oh My Gawd! Delusions of grandeur have completely absorbed Nightingale. In this video from their event, she is claiming California's governor. Just take a look at the first few seconds of the video and you'll see:

http://vimeo.com/19660509

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...20Republic.jpg

Wow, I guess if you can't win by an actual election, you can pretend you won if you get a few others to pretend also. Don't people like this usually land up in mental institutions? Maybe they'll pretend they're Superman or Superwoman and think they can fly, not so far fetched than what they're doing. I didn't think Chelene would fly that far out of reality to such a delusional state. This is getting closer to a sickness than an actual goal.

I'd laugh if it weren't so sad. These are what people identify with as fringe and are somewhat of an embarrassment to so many well grounded people who don't agree with the condition of our political system. Yet, no one in their right mind pretends they've been placed in office as these nuts do.

Amazing!!!! So now Chelene Nightingale is the Governor of California in a parallel Government formed by persons that I know nothing about.

When was she going to tell us Californians that she too is governor of California?

In the video hosted on The Republics website she introduces a Mr Ken Cousens as her "Chief Justice". http://republicoftheunitedstates.org/
In addition the ticker below the video plainly states "Governor".

It was most interesting to me that there is no video of her being introduced verbally as the governor of California though reliable sources have confirmed that there is a flier that has been distributed via the internet with her title as the "Governor of the Republic, California". Is it possible that I have already paid taxes to her?

Just a thought.

It has also been reported that her emails now contain a footnote filled with prohibitions regarding the use of her emails. Why then does she bother to email anything out?

I suspect that Mrs Nightingale's efforts to "free" us from our current situation will entail a very sincere effort to run for either President or Vice President of the USA. To that end she might convince fellow Christian Chuck Baldwin that she is a worthy running mate.

Mrs Nightingale has been described as a small business owner and a home schooling mom that would never borrow money from anyone and not
repay it because her Christian beliefs, morals and ethics are very high.

Likewise it is completely beneath her to tell people that the person that she borrowed money from is a mole working for the other side and has an anti-USA agenda.

Only really corrupt people would do something like that and only really stupid ones would believe it and act upon it.

Mrs Chelene Nightingale, what a girl, what a Governor!!!! We have much to look forward to from Chelene. Go gettem' girl!!!!

"My Mama Says Stupid Is As Stupid Does" -Forrest Gump :D:D:D

I too noticed that problems with corruption involving money and websites has plagued this group right from the start.

They appear to be selling three different kinds of ID including one that allows travel throughout the USA (huh?).

They have a web page for their "Governors" of each state but it has no one's name in it for California and other states.

Confused !
 

Clarifications please !

Just how many political bodies actually claim Califiornia ? Or is it Mexifornia ? Or is it Aztlan ?

Who's in charge there these days ? Chelene "? Or Jerry Brown ? Or Felipe Calderon ?

Is that geographic region still part of the United States ?

Now do we have 49 states or 50 or 58 states as Barak Obama has stated ?

Is there now a Republic of California state flag ? State flower ?

Has the Republic of California as yet been recognized by the International Community ?

Would the State - er - Republic capitol be Disney World by any chance ? *( Or is that still in Florida ) ?

Those are great questions and I wonder whose part of California I am living in.
Perhaps Chelene will do a state of the union address so that we can be told that she is our Governor and what we have to do in order to fit in with her plan for the restoration of California.

Chelene has great wisdom acquired working as a model and an actress though we are hard put to verify any of her working background.

Whatever it is we must listen to her because she is very wise and we would be lost without her.

We are vastly inferior in our intellect when compared to her. I am thinking of calling her to see if she will explain to me how to start my car.

She is so wise, omnipotent and I am just a mere mortal.

A bunch of little boys and girls pretending to be grown-ups.

Come to think of it; It does kind of resemble playing "house"

It's like dealing with my 14 and 15 year olds. Crap!

This is what happens when you live in a delusion. Thank God that He pulled me out of that mess when He did.