The primary for the California governor's race is this June
The primary elections for the California governor's race is June 8, 2010. Here is a list of candidates so far. Aside from the obvious, can anyone say what each of them have to say about immigration?
http://www.politics1.com/ca.htm Tom Campbell (R) - Ex-Congressman, Law School Professor, Ex-State Budget Director & '00 US Senate Nominee Ken Miller (R) - Businessman William Morrison (R) Steve Poizner (R) - State Insurance Commissioner, Ex-Technology Executive & Ex-White House Fellow Meg Whitman (R) - Ex-eBay CEO Richard Aguirre (D) - Economist Jerry Brown (D) - Attorney General, Ex-Governor, Ex-Secretary of State, Ex-Oakland Mayor & Ex-State Democratic Chair John Chiang (D) - State Controller Dianne Feinstein (D) - US Senator, Ex-San Francisco Mayor & '90 Nominee Fred Medill (D) - College Student Joe Symmon (D) - Non-Profit Group Founder & Pastor Chelene Nightingale (AIP) - Conservative Activist & Entertainer Lew Tremaine (Green) - Fairfax Town Councilman Dale Ogden (Libertarian) - Actuarial Consultant & Frequent Candidate Stewart Alexander (PFP) - Community Activist, Car Salesman & Frequent Candidate Carlos Alvarez (PFP) - Community Activist & '09 Los Angeles Mayor Candidate Mohammad Arif (PFP) - Website Publisher & '03 Candidate Georges Marciano (Independent) - Guess Jeans Co-Founder Vincent May (Independent) - Businessman, Ex-Police Officer & USMC Veteran |
Thanks for the links. That made for some interesting reading.
I believe I may have found a new candidate. Chelene may have just lost a potential voter. I like what Vincent May listed on his site, and without question, his site intro is the coolest of any candidate's on the web. |
I haven't seen too much history on this candidate May. The page "about May" doesn't have much in the way of bio.
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I heard Meg Whitman on one of the talk radio shows and she said she would have voted against Prop. 187 because she's "for the children."
WHOSE CHILDREN MEG? Certainly not American children whose schools and neighborhoods are destroyed when the brown tidal wave sweeps over. So much for Meg Whitman. Another globalist. |
What we have to pick from is really sad. The old hat pin pick is as good as any.
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It is important to remember, once again, that this June the election will only be the primary election. That is, it is an election held, by the government, for the benefit of the officially recognized political parties. We don't even really need a primary election. This is something that should be held by the political parties themselves.
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I, personally, am against the children. More specifically, the ones born to parents unlawfully in the country, who are mostly unfit to raise kids, regardless of their immigration status, because they have little education and insufficient incomes to care for them without taxpayer assistance. |
Lew Tremaine (Green) - Fairfax Town Councilman
I was born & raised in Fairfax, and currently the Town is ground-center for Progressives/Liberals, right smack-dab in the center of ultra-Liberal Marin county. Fairfax has 'Bans" on almost everything,( styrofoam, plastic bags, woodstoves, etc.) and was the first "nuclear-free zone" in the world...They have signs on all roads going in/out of Town proclaiming this. Chances are if you were to walk into Town, You either have on Your person, or might be wearing something "banned/illegal", if You were'nt from the area, and did'nt know what was "cool", or frowned apon by the Locals. Lynnette Shaw, also from Faifax, ran for Lt.Governor last election, and if I remeber right about 2% of the vote. She started, and ran the Marin Medical Cannabis Aliance, and ran a dispensary a few years before Ca.'s Prop 215 (medical cannabis) was even voted into law, pre-1996, how She even got away with it....Who knows? Here's the Towns festival poster, look at all of the bubbles for little symbols. mlike the Obama wave, the letters "UN". http://www.fairfaxfestival.com/ So that sorta give You a peek into Lew's politics, as far as a Canidate goes. As far as Meg goes..will She force Me into getting a PayPal acount to vote for Her??...I never liked Her when she ran eBay, and made it a PayPal/credit card only site for Buyers/Sellers, made the site feel impersonal to Me, now I rarely ever go there, except for price references on items I might have for sale, or buy on OTHER websites that allow checks/Money orders. But on a positive note...at least Gavin Newsom is'nt running....now that Guy is scary. CB. |
The one I find most qualified is Tom Campbell. He will get my vote in the primary.
I too am against the "children". Whitman's opposition to 187 is enough to eliminate her from consideration unless she is the candidate opposing Jerry Brown. Community activist and entertainer is not enough to persuade most Californians for a vote. |
I am with Kathy. Tom Campbell gets my vote. After that, I will be voting Republican. I cannot give my vote to a candidate that does not have any chance of winning.
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FYI: Tom Campbell has indicated his approval of the notion of granting residency to illegal aliens who arrived here as minors.
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Thanks DA.
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I suppose the proper recipient of my vote would then have to be the person likely to do the least amount of damage. |
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Yeah, and I'm not voting for someone who is going to address California's biggest problem in a half-assed fashion. Getting rid of some of the illegals is not enough to fix much of what is wrong with California. Getting rid of all of the illegals in such a manner that they take tens of thousands of their American-born offspring with them when they leave, is. Just about anything other than what is described in my last sentence keeps us on the financially ruinous and culturally poisoned Highway to Hell on which we are currently driving, only at a slower rate of speed. |
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What a strange idea. Why would amnesty not include illegals who arrive as minors? Why are amnesty advocates making this distinction? |
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Well, there is one tiny little problem...ex post facto. It's in that silly document called the Constitution. Justice Chase in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798], defined the first aspect of ex post facto as: Quote:
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I'm missing the ex post facto distinction you're making (???) You lost me, dude. I want illegal aliens to be deported. Whether they came here voluntarily or not is irrelevant as to current immigration laws. They're supposed to be removed, whether they arrived as adults or minors. As a byproduct of the parents being removed (not legal action), I realize that many who are removed will take their children with them to preserve family unity or out of economic necessity. I consider that a good thing. Anchor babies graduate from high school in low numbers and are more likely to have run ins with the criminal justice system. As many as the families will carry back home is all good, from my perspective. |
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Now a minor who was brought to this country illegally by parents entering this country illegally is an entirely different animal. I happen to know a young man who is in this predicament. It is a messy situation, but I have made it known to this young man must return to Mexico and come back legally now that he is of age. Most of those who advocate for him disagree with me. However, because of other issues that I will not enumerate here, I believe it behooves this young man to return to a country he has no knowledge of in order to make his status in this country legal. To me the real problem isn't the children (anchor babies or illegals). The real problem is the government and the education system that is run by leftist and Socialists. These children are being taught that whitey is the cause of all their problems. Ironically, they are being taught this by whites, go figure. Anyway, my concern is that the Constitution be upheld regardless of our personal convictions. Sometimes I think that in our righteous anger over this illegal invasion we are suffering we say things in anger or exasperation that we may not mean. Not to mention we say things that may not meet Constitutional muster. |
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Why not? Why can't we make it retroactive? Do you think we would be better off if we could make it retroactive? Quote:
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The constitution is a fluid document. It was not carved in stone by God, it was written by human beings and we agree to it as a matter of citizenship and no other reason. We could change it to make it more explicit as to the issue of citizenship and who or who should not qualify as US citizens. |
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Only a "liberal' would believe that we should be giving public education to the children of illegal immigrants. If we educate the children of illegal immigrants, that is just one more incentive for them to come here illegally.
Do you think the children of illegal immigrants should be US citizens by birth? If not, then why not and if you have a good reason, then why should the children of illegal immigrants ever be considered US citizens? "If you are so willing to do this to illegals, then I would presume that you would have no issue with the government doing the same to you, correct?" What the government does to illegals has nothing to do with what the US government can or can't do to US citizens. Why is it necessary to explain this? |
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The good reason I have that children born in the past and until the law changes are American citizens is US case law. You might want to read those decisions. Quote:
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I know that part of the arsenal of those who threaten the sovereignty of peoples everywhere is the promise that their own laws will be twisted against them. The first obligation of our legal system is the protection of US citizens and the first obligation of our legal system in regards to illegal immigrants is removing them from the country. And their offspring. The role of the constitution in the affairs of illegal immigrants and anyone who is not a citizen extends only to the extent that it protects citizens first. We will not corrupt our laws by creating a second legal system for people who are not citizens. The United States of America exists for its states and its citizens in those states. There is nobody or nothing else that those citizens have any cause to be concerned with. And there is nobody or nothing else that its government has cause to be concerned with. Everyone else who steps foot in this country is a guest and should presume absolutely and unequivocally nothing more. And those who have falsely assumed the guise of US citizenship are something considerably less than guests. |
Ok, there are things we might not agree on.
How about taking the staircase one step at a time rather than trying to jump flat footed to the second story? What might be accomplished in a year? Two years? Gutierrez has introduced an outrageous amnesty bill. What can we do about that? If it's torpedoed, can we also sink the next two dozen that come along before before the make up of Congress changes? How can the economic situation be exploited to get rid of the notion that American culture is something to be stamped out and that we'd be better off being Balkanized "citizens of the world"? |
The primary for the California governor's race is this June
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"Tom has a Ph.D. in economics from the University of Chicago. His faculty advisor was Milton Friedman. Prior to that, Tom had obtained his B.A. and M.A. degrees in economics from the University of Chicago, on the same day in 1973. He then entered Harvard Law School where he served on the Harvard Law Review Board of Editors. He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law in 1976. After law school, Tom served as law clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Byron White. Thereafter, Tom returned to the University of Chicago for his economics doctorate, received in 1980. His free market economics training cemented a life-long commitment to limited government and greater individual liberty." Another really good thing about Campbell is if you subscribe to his e-mail alerts he'll notify you when he has a "telephone town hall meeting" and you can participate just by signing up ahead of time and entering your login code on the phone just before the call. I've talked to him on one of these and was extremely impressed with his intelligence and knowledge of the issues. His callers also ask really intelligent questions. |
I'd still like to know where he attended school before university, was it public or private. A simple and intelligent question, if you ask me. What kind of community does he come from? There is very little information about him, really, for somebody who wants to become governor of California.
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