Don,

Due to your customary literary style, I'll take this as a high complement from you:

One more time.

If you have a bitch about the "invasion of California" by "third world scum" and "cockroaches", you have no farther to look than your scumbag American Congressman, two scumbag American Senators, scumbag president, and your scumbag American - perhaps former - third world hiring employer. If they had their bags mashed over illegal immigration all those "pregnant Mexican women surrounded by eight kids" and other third world, in your view, troglodyte degenerates wouldn't be here either.


There would be no "third world invasion" without American business and American politicians colluding and profiting via illegal immigration. Illegal aliens are the outward symptom of the disease, not the insidious cause of the disease itself.

Why don't you put as much effort into running culpable politicians out of town on a rail and jailing errant employers as you do bitching about Mexicans, Blacks, and Jews?



By the way, it's not my website, nor do I have any say into how the organization conducts its business, nor do I intend for my commentary or personal activity to be taken as the official voice and action of Save Our State.

Well said, Ilbegone. I would just add to your list the scumbag pro-illegal immigration PAC's (e.g. La Raza, MeCHA, MALDEF, LULAC), and the enabling bleeding-heart liberal voters (especially in California) who help those scumbag politicians get elected.

What culture would that be? You don't know me, so don't think you know what my culture is.


You really have no concept of anything do you? Why don't you stay with the skinheads and other dunce cap wearing white sheet sporting morons. I make that statement based on the fact that you are consistently anti-Semitic, and anti non-white.

Your culture? I wonder what you imagine that is.

Don, the guy's an American worried about illegal immigration. That much is evident simply from his participation/presence here.

Life and people are not as easily color or ethnicity coded as you'd like them. Sweet Jesus ...

"skinheads and other dunce cap wearing white sheet sporting morons"

Wow! Where did you learn how to write like that? Chicano Studies?

Of course I know what your culture is. And so does everyone else. You are an open book.

I have never hesitated to condemn the white GOP traitors who helped open the doors to foreign invasion: Ronald Reagan (Amnesty in 1986) , George W. Bush (open borders, amnesty), John McCain (open borders, amnesty) , Dan Lungren (big tent), Jack Kemp (big tent GOP), William Bennett (open borders) , Michael Medved (Zionist who wants open borders for the US, but border wall for Israel), Hugh Hewitt ( Big tent GOP and 'pathway to citizenship," but not to his neighborhood), and others. If you look at my post No. 30 in this thread, I specifically condemned RINO Hugh Hewitt, because he has publicly announced his intentions to move to another state with fewer Hispanics.

I have as much right to criticize illegal aliens as I do to criticize white RINO traitors. You don't get to tell me who I can't criticize.

If you are so upset with scumbag politicians and scumbag employers, blah, blah, blah, then go for it. I do not seek to gag you. Criticize anyone you want.

BTW, I did not start this thread about getting out of California ASAP because of too many Hispanics here. Maybe you should take up this thread with the person who started it.

Saving money by leaving california
 

It is hard to pack up and move, but when you Know it's going to be the Best for your family and Business. The expense , or in debt to got out will in the Long run be worth it :p

OK, back to reality.

Looks like the Zionist traitors, RINO's, Chicano Studies majors, cockroaches and negroes won't have California on their radar much longer. Below is reality. How much longer until a mass exodus for greener pastures commences?


Calif borrows $40M a day to pay unemployment


With one in every eight workers unemployed and empty state coffers, California is borrowing billions of dollars from the federal government to pay unemployment insurance.

The Los Angeles Times reports that the state owes $8.6 billion already, and will have to come up with a $362-million payment to Washington by the end of next September.

The continued borrowing means federal unemployment insurance taxes are going to increase, upping the annual payroll costs $21 a year per worker.

California tops the list of 32 states that have borrowed a total of $41 billion to pay claims.

The state took out its first loan from the federal government early last year, to deal with rising payment of benefits and number of claims.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz14innAA2Z

Don, do you understand that it's possible to be against illegal immigration without also being racist?

I don't call other races names, and I'm damn sick and tired of having whites called names. I didn't even know that I was white until this illegal crap came up a few years ago. My children are brown and white, but best of all they are Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've always been an American and all of those of different colors that I hung out with were Americans also! Now we have to see color!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????? No wonder you want to move Pocho! This is insane!

It's not the who, it's the how.

Anyone who has come here illegally as an adult and under their free will needs to be deported. That includes those who have committed fraud in order to become naturalized.

However, I criticize politicians and business interests for their anti-American citizen whore-ness, you have blanket approach criticized people on the basis of their ancestry, regardless of their citizenship or personal beliefs.

That strips you of credibility. You yourself put that pointy hat on your own head.

Wrong. You don't get to dictate "how" I criticize filthy stinking third world scum and cockroaches either.

You can call me all the names you like if it makes you feel better. The truth is that minorities can't stampede fast enough to "integrate" towns full of white people like me, and you can't run fast enough to get away from communities full of minorities after they do it.

Why have millions of Americans already left California? Why are people on this web site talking openly about leaving California? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO RUN AWAY TO A STATE WITH FEWER HISPANICS IN IT, THAT'S WHY!

I don't believe you've reached your full potential yet.

Let it out, don't hold yourself back. After all, you have the right to free speech. Not to mention showing the whole world what you truly believe and what you truly are.

Who is who, who believes what, and who is among those victimized by illegal immigration besides your chosen group? You don't have the slightest clue, and you don't care.

Ignorance is one thing, but willful blindness is another.

If you are going to have an enemy, maybe you might want to correctly identify who the enemy is and understand him, otherwise you're going to get your ass kicked. As well, if you concentrate on the tool of battle rather than the puppet master who wields the tool, you're toast.

On the other hand, the web makes a great medium for those who get their kicks vituperating players in a tragic opera they barely understand while seated in the white only section.

Don, you just answered my question. Apparently you can't separate your blatant racism from the perfectly legitimate opposition to illegal immigration. Frankly it's people like you who give the rest of us a bad name. It just takes one person with your attitude to lead the media and our opposition to falsely conclude that we're all a bunch of racists.

I believe the reason this thread started up was over the Brown victory giving the liberal spender democrats a huge advantage in passing their agenda, raising taxes, and further crippling the future of California; I don't think the thread was predicated on illegals. although they are always an implied factor

Well, Don, no one is calling you names as much as they are calling a spade a spade. You brought it on yourself. You think that everyone not like you is somehow beneath you, and that is wrong. No one is better because of the country they were fortunate enough to be born in. No one is less a person because of the color of their skin. No one is a cockroach because they are not European. However, we understand why you are the way you are. What you fail to understand is that with every keystroke you paint yourself into the bigot corner. However, you will not accept responsibility for that, and in this aspect you are just like the people you call cockroaches. You epitomize the blame others first mentality that you detest in others. This is how most bullies work. How sad for you.

Further, I have been out on the front lines, everyone here knows what I have done for this movement. What have you done? What events have you attended? Where are your scars? As far as most people here are concerned you are just another personal computer "patriot" who doesn't have the courage to get out and stand for what he says he believes in. It all comes down to works, Don. The half-brother of Yeshua, Jacob, said "You have faith and I have deeds. Show me your faith apart from your deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds." In other words, talk is cheap, man. I want to see some thing that you have done. What do you have, Don? Put up or shut up. Simple as that.

As far as me leaving California goes, I am going to leave for my home state of New Mexico hardly a state with a large European population.

Well said Pocho! I've been out with you in the front lines and still continue to do so, when my teenagers activities don't conflict. New Mexico is very Patriotic. My daughter and family lives on Nambe Pueblo and they have all they can do, to keep their land clean from the illegals. They fly their American Flags and are very proud Americans. To be frank, I've also thought of moving there my self. Of course I'd have no say so in the affairs, as I'm not of American Indian decent, but there will always be a need for people like me, who will help do the work. They won't spit on me, throw things at me, and call me the names I've been called out in the trenches. God Bless America!

This is the best thing I have read about the recent election we had in our sunny state. The author is dead on the money with this one.

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How do California and the Titanic differ?
by Dennis Prager

OK, riddle fans, here's a toughie: What's the difference between California voters and the passengers on the Titanic?

The passengers on the Titanic didn't vote to hit the iceberg.

Most Americans understand that California is sinking. What is almost incredible is that it has voted to sink.

On Election Day 2010, Californians voted Democrats into every statewide position (one is still undecided). This is the party that singlehandedly has brought one of the world's greatest economies to near ruin. There may well be historical parallels to what Californians did – but I cannot think of any.

A listener called my radio show two days after the elections to tell me that his business is booming – thanks to Californians. His occupation? He's a real estate agent in Phoenix, Ariz.

The middle class has begun to leave California. It is, of course, impossible for most members of such a large group to leave a state; few people leave their family, their friends, their job and their home except under the most dramatic circumstances. But this fact makes all the more noteworthy the exodus from California that has been taking place.

You have to wonder how many businesses and individuals would leave California if their friends and family could also leave, if they could find a comparable job elsewhere and if they could sell their homes without losing money. What you don't have to wonder about is who would stay under those conditions. The state of California would eventually be left largely with those groups who voted Democrat in this election: rich liberals (such as those who live in Nancy Pelosi's Marin County, in the Bay Area and in West Los Angeles); state and municipal workers (who vote Democrat in as direct a pay-for-vote scheme as a law-based society allows); those who rely on state and city governments for entitlements; and those Latinos who either fall into the last category or who unfortunately identify the Republican Party with anti-Latino sentiments because it opposes illegal immigration.

Those who believe in individual responsibility, the free market and personal liberty are a minority in California. We greet each other as Americans would greet each other meeting in a foreign country.

We watch as one of the greatest places in the world – with its extraordinary natural beauty, almost uniquely beautiful weather and agricultural abundance – wastes all of this as a result of having become a left-wing experiment. What is particularly saddening is to see a state whose success was achieved because it was a Mecca for the adventurous in spirit do everything possible to crush that spirit and drive away those who have it.

There is a silver lining here: clarity. Americans living elsewhere need not elect liberal Democrats to know what will happen if they do. They only need to look at California if they want to see what happens to a state governed by the left (and, for that matter, they can look at Texas to see what happens to a state's finances when governed by the right).

The left and its teachers unions have ruined public education in California. The left and its public-service unions have saddled the state with $500 billion in unfunded pension liability. California's left-governed cities have set themselves up as "sanctuary cities" for those who have come into America illegally. And the left passes more and more rules governing the behavior of California citizens. Two examples: San Francisco just banned McDonald's Happy Meals because they come with a toy and therefore entice children to eat fattening food; and the Democratic legislature has made it illegal for a California employer – even in a retail operation – to ask a male employee who comes to work wearing a dress to wear men's clothing while at work.

And to render the Titanic analogy even more accurate, Californians voted to retain a law that was described by George Will as one "that preposterously aims to cool the planet by requiring a 30 percent reduction of carbon emissions by 2020."

That law will ensure that California taxes energy use more than any other state. That, in turn, is guaranteed to increase unemployment and the cost of living in the state – one more reason businesses and productive individuals are leaving, but rarely moving into, California.

Environmentalist true believers have free reign in California. They have convinced a majority of the state's voters to believe the increasingly absurd notion that human carbon dioxide emission is heating up the planet to temperatures so high that humanity and the earth will suffer cataclysmic consequences.

To return to our Titanic metaphor, the great difference between that ill-fated ship's crew and California's crew (its voters and the California Democratic Party) is that the Titanic's crew did everything possible to avoid hitting the iceberg; California's crew did everything possible to hit it. Perhaps they believe global warming will melt it before they get there.

Yes, Dennis totally gets it on this issue, just as he does on most other issues IMO. It's too bad more people can't or don't listen to his radio show.

One reason people don't listen to him is that Dennis requires you to think, and not parrot talking points.

Edited to add: I am sure that there is one member of this board that WON'T listen to him because Dennis is a Zionist.

Even if Dennis wasn't a Zionist, just his being Jewish would be enough to deter our resident anti-Semite.

You know, the day I have to listen to back handed, thinly-veiled insults from you hook nose sympathizers is the same day I'll smile like a good little obedient goyim while getting fleeced on April 15 to pay for the Zionist Occupational Government.

Take your marching orders from Jerusalem all you like, you'll fool no one. You are both an open book.

Careful, you might get banned. ;)

Below is a portion of one of the leading stories in today's L.A. Times.

Let me summarize: Turn out the lights, the party's over ...


By Shane Goldmacher, Los Angeles Times


Reporting from Sacramento — As Jerry Brown prepares to take over as governor, California faces a $25.4-billion deficit — far larger than state officials were projecting only days ago — the state's chief budget analyst said Wednesday.

The figure, projected over the next year and a half, results from billions of dollars in phantom savings approved by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislators last month, more budget restrictions passed by voters last week and predictions of a "painfully slow economic recovery," according to the report from the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office.

In addition, more than $8 billion in temporary sales, car and income taxes are set to expire in the coming year, and the federal stimulus program that has helped prop up schools, healthcare for the poor and other state programs also will soon disappear.

The report shows $20-billion annual shortfalls in future years as well.

"There is no good news," said Legislative Analyst Mac Taylor.

Simply keeping K-12 public schools funded at their current level would expand the deficit, Taylor said. That is because billions of dollars in school cutbacks are already factored in.

The predicted $25.4-billion deficit is the equivalent of about 29% of this year's general fund budget. Erasing the gap will require a combination of severe cuts and more in tax collections over several years, the report said.

And here's a head-scratcher for me, however I'm sure capitol insiders have a clue:

Arnold calls a special session for budget work? He's going to be out in a little over a month, and it usually takes the legislature several months to agree on budget matters. What's the deal here? One last parting shot to set something in stone for those supporters of his who backed him up? It's either the water, the rail, or the bondholders wanting more security?

That would leave a trail. We gas 'em, bury 'em in mass graves, and then claim it was all a hoax

I found this:

Here is opportunity for Brown to pull one of his fast ones:

Brown pledges not to raise taxes, but this leaves open the possibility of elimination of income tax deductions without literally going back on his word...

Dutton wants to deal with it now with what we have, Brown is holding out for June or so for a public vote on raising taxes, which I believe will be shot down like Schartzenneger's propositions and force Brown to get creative with "revenue enhancement".

Does Brown really think he can squeeze blood out of a stone? How are Jerry and his "kids" in the legislature going to handle this without hacking on their pet entitlements? How about that revenue negative "green energy" boondoggle they insist on?


The whole article http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/nov/...xxfcoutlook11/

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Damn! I forgot that if you're not a brother of the cloth, you aren't allowed to jest about such things :o

I guess we just have different ideas about where the lines are.

Rimo you hit the nail on the head.

I read it last night -- thought it was funny, too :^)